.223 Subsonic load question

[jarhead1086]

Trailboss works great in my .308 subs. I use 10 grains with 180's from a 16 barrel. It fills the case about 2/3 full. I was worried about the 60 grain Aguila stabilizing in my slow twist .22's, but for some reason they shoot accurately in several different .22's, a pistol and 2 rifles. You can hear a noticeable difference hitting a rabbit in the skull with the 60's compared to the 40's. You are right on the bolt .223 Pitt, that is fun, but still a PITA. If I had a bolt .223 I'd keep a few subs around like I do for my .308 boltgun. American Spirit Arms makes a neat upper that cocks like a FAL from the left side that would be neat to shoot subs like a pump action in your AR if you really wanted to.

http://www.americanspiritarms.net/st...on=show_detail

[Pitt300]

That's a nice upper.
The Kel-Tec SU16C is fun as a mag fed bolt gun w/large cap mag but you do have to use right hand. Not end of the world, I do it w/o dismounting gun.

These are really fun guns but I know it will never hold up like an AR.
I've taken a number of does w/it.

+ the barrel al;ready comes threaded from the factory.
It's almost like they want you to suppress it!

http://www.kel-tec-cnc.com/su16c.html