Subsonic Deer Hunting

[fpjeepy05]

Originally Posted by Rikky Lee

fpjeepy05: did the bullet go through the bone on entry?

Though a rib through both lungs through another rib and stuck in the far shoulder.

[d-mon]

I have a little philosophical question ?

The 300 whisper is from around the early 90's if my memory serve me well.
I find it a bit bizarre that 20 years later we are still at such an early stage of discovery in term of bullet performances on animals and game, penetration, killing power ...etc

What do you think?

Mind you, It took a while for Jack O'Connor to convince the rest of the world of the performances of the 270 winchester.

ND

[Rikky Lee]

I think it is another case ahead of its time and technology is only starting to catch up with it. Let me go out on a limb and say that the bullets we have been using are wrong for hunting but we do not have an answer for that yet. And there are not enough mainstream users out there to drive demand for new/better components.

Give it another 10 years and review!

[fpjeepy05]

With Remington behind the blackout I bet it unravels even faster.

[martineta]

Remington can try like heck to get the "new caliber" off the ground but basically this is the hardest sell of all. Trying to convince a marketplace that they need some brand new caliber that basically Joe Bubba hasn`t asked for. No easy sell here. Its what as known as Missionary Selling. Trying to sell a product that has no driving need to spur sales. Good luck to Remington and hats off for trying. I wish them well but won`t hold my breath thinking this will be the next .223 rem catridge.

Love my Whispers!

[dick]

Originally Posted by Rikky Lee

I think it is another case ahead of its time and technology is only starting to catch up with it. Let me go out on a limb and say that the bullets we have been using are wrong for hunting but we do not have an answer for that yet. And there are not enough mainstream users out there to drive demand for new/better components.

Give it another 10 years and review!

The future is now fella, have you tried any of the subsonic expanding bullets currently available. Relying on a tubling bullet alone is going out on a limb, not to mention typical over penatration and ricachete of OTB's. PUCKER FACTOR 10....

[Rikky Lee]

If these specialist bullets are not available at the local gun store and are not in the face of Joe shooter every time he opens a gun magazine then we are not close to mainstream shooter consciousness and market factors remain in play.

If Remington puts developmental dollars into subsonic bullet development and markets it then ...

[gds]

I had pretty good success using sub sonic posted here

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4993

[d-mon]

Well Talking about remington,
What is the last great idea that they produced and took out the world by storm?

Not their ar -15
not their Short action ultra mag cartridges.
not their electronic ignition system
not their barrels wrapped with carbon fiber (except for christensen arms)

The ultra mag series of cartridges: maybe a bit
The 7 remington mag :yes
The model 700 rifle action :yes.

The 350 remington and 6.5 remington also not to bad cartridges have never thrived.
The 260 remington could have had a greater name for itself if remington had dared chambering it in a varmint/tactical rifle with the proper twist at an early stage.
I believe remington has never been the the best at cornering a market, or otherwise they where ahead of their times when nobody needed what they created.

Now they are coming out with the 300 ACC, which as Rikkylee said is a cartridge of no use for the average hunter.
They could chamber it in a short little seven for young shooters, a tactical/ varmint 700 rifle reasonnably priced (not like the flash one on the youtube clip that gona blow the budget),an ar15 , of course they will have too.

Remington is a well respected name in the industry, it would be sad to see them go away. I just hope they are going to head in the right direction.

ND

[dick]

We'll lets all hold are breath for the next ten years, because "we are not close to mainstream shooter consiousness" and "joe shooter" dose not have a supressed rifle nor does he hunt with one. Most "joe shooters" would be happy to shoot factory loaded factory bullet that already exists, just because of price.