help me build the ultimate silenced hunter

[Alleycat]

They're telling you it may short stroke. You can solve the problem by clipping a coil or two off the recoil spring. If all you do is run subs you're good. If you plan on running supersonic as well you may need a 3 position gas block. I don't know how their gas system is set up. Most pistol uppers don't even have one. Maybe something else to ask.

[Alleycat]

I looked at load data for the 45 Win Mag in the Sierra manual. Max loads show 1050 with a 300gr bullet and a 6.5" barrel. If you do an integral the barrel length will not be much more than that. See what SRT needs. The back pressure from the suppressor will help with function of the gun. If you have Bazooka Brothers send the upper directly to SRT you won't have to worry about the SBR thing as long as the upper ends up 16" or more.

[SwampF0X]

I found this on handloads.com http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/de...Powder&Source=

I shouldn't have any problems that can't be easily fixed.

I thought integral meant that the barrel has holes drilled into it with some type of filler material inside of a larger tube for suppression....................So, it's just a short barrel with a suppressor welded onto it???

swampf0x

[SwampF0X]

Does the SRT integral come apart for cleaning? Is there a better/quieter suppressor than the SRT integral?

swampy

[SwampF0X]

Here is my email to SRT:

> Hello, I am planning a build up of an AR-15. I intend to use a Bazookabrothers.com upper in 45 win mag. I then intend to have it integrally suppressed. How long will the actual barrel be before welding on the suppressor tube? I want the OAL of the barrel/suppressor to be around 16.5". I intend to shoot 300 grain XTP's at 1050fps. Does this sound feasible to you?


And this is SRT's response:

"I have never heard of a .45 Win Mag, but this sounds like a gas operated gun and you can't integrally suppressed a gas operated gun, only blowback type.

Thanks,
Doug
www.srtarms.com"


Now what??????

An integral 45 acp blowback action with the barrel re-chambered in 45 win mag. I'm gonna need the extra case capacity of the 45 win mag to get 1050fps with a 300grainer, won't I????

swampf0x

[Titleiiredneck]

you can supress a gas operated gun, it just has to be past the gas block, also i think the 45 win mag is blowback like the oly 45acp upper. if you just email back and confirm this and you should be ok

[Titleiiredneck]

on another idea, have you thought about a 16" ar10 with a gas shut off and side charger? would basically be a straight pull 308 win with a hi cap mag. You could also use subsonic with no problems. Or another idea, get tp555 on here to build a 3 way block so subsonic 308 will cycle. This would give you the best of 3 worlds in reality. A suppressor you could use on 223 to 300 mag and a semi ar10 that cycles with 308.. hope this makes you even more confused than before

titleiiredneck

[SwampF0X]

AR10 is out of the question. I already have a semi auto 308. It's my primary deer rifle at this time. I don't need another 308. I want to either build upon the AR15 platform or do a full custom bullpup in 44mag.

thanks,
swampf0x

[Titleiiredneck]

I understand that, i really think you should look more into a 300 whisper, a deer willnot know the diffrence between 1050 fps or 1300 fps. The deer wil try to tell the direction where the shot came from and run away on the oppisite direction, he will not be able to until the 3rd shot atleast. Also a 300 whisper with 200 gr sierra game kings works well on deer around here. I take and chuck it in a drill press and ream a 3/16 hole in the exposed lead 1/4" deep and it expands drastically 99% of the time. I have gotten to where i just use 220 smk's and wait for a neck/head shot nowadays.

[SwampF0X]

The 300 Whisper is the reason I came to this site. But after looking around and asking questions, I decided that I should use a heavier bullet. No matter the caliber, I want to shoot them at 1050fps to keep them subsonic. Next will be a suppressor.

swampf0x