help me build the ultimate silenced hunter

[redtazdog]

Originally Posted by SwampF0X

Does the intregal style hurt accuracy?

swampf0x

Nope!
My AR 45 hits golf balls at 100 yrds and so does the TC 44 mag

[SwampF0X]

Who did the intregal 45 barrel for you and what twist is it? Also is it a blow back bolt or like the original AR? If it's even an AR???

swampf0x

[redtazdog]

Originally Posted by SwampF0X

Who did the intregal 45 barrel for you and what twist is it? Also is it a blow back bolt or like the original AR? If it's even an AR???

swampf0x

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SRT did the integral its like the one in the video you posted.
1:16 twist
Blowback like in the video
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[SwampF0X]

Great!!! It's looking like the integral 45 win mag AR will be my best bet.

I "should" be able to launch a .45 cal 300 grain bullet at about 1050fps easily. And if I go with the Bazookabrothers upper, and an SRT integral suppressor.............I should be able to launch those 300 grainers rather quietly to. ;) It would be about the same, both noise wise and killing wise as an integral 44 mag. It should have a little bit more velocity and a flatter trajectory than a .45acp. Not as much devastation as a 530 grain bullet in a 458 SOCOM, But...................I think it will do the job nicely.

So, what do you guys think? Have I setteled on something everyone agrees would be a good quiet deer gun?????????????

I just wish it wasn't so long. I honestly cant hold my Rugger 77 243 long ways across my lap when in the hunting blinds. That's how small they are. A bull pup would be perfect for the blinds..................M1 carbines have been converted to 45 win mag............. Hmmmmm

swampf0x

[redtazdog]

Originally Posted by SwampF0X

Great!!! It's looking like the integral 45 win mag AR will be my best bet.

I "should" be able to launch a .45 cal 300 grain It would be about the same, both noise wise and killing wise as an integral 44 mag. It should have a little bit more velocity and a flatter trajectory than a .45acp.

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The integral 45 may be quiet in a semiauto but it will never be as quiet as
a 44mag integral bolt action or single shot.

[pmc]

Originally Posted by redtazdog

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The integral 45 may be quiet in a semiauto but it will never be as quiet as
a 44mag integral bolt action or single shot.

This.

A single shot or bolt action is the quietest way to go.

Pmc

[SwampF0X]

Originally Posted by redtazdog

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The integral 45 may be quiet in a semiauto but it will never be as quiet as
a 44mag integral bolt action or single shot.

Even if I get a gas shut off valve and a side handle and use the Bazookabrothers upper?????????

swampf0x

[Rikky Lee]

If you are after del Lisle carbine performance then you need a de Lisle type platform. Simple things like padding to collect the brass in the magazine, a different firing spring material - little cheats to shave off a few decibels.

But since you plan to be firing from a hide in a wooded area with ambient noise (birds, wind, farm noise in the distance)? then an AR-15 platform should be fine enough. It will always be noisy for the shooter because your ear is against the mechanical system but the casual observer 10, 100 500 yards away will not be aware of gunfire. The sound of the round hitting the dear is the loudest noise.

[SwampF0X]

OK, I'll leave this alone for a while and keep tabs on it. I do believe I've found the best mix for an AR. But, I still want a bullpup..................time will tell.

swampf0x

[SwampF0X]

Here is the response I got from Bazooka Brothers:

"It may be dificult to get the 45winmag to push the 300s that slow & still run the action. I would sugest the 45acp & the 230g. Could look into the 300s for it as well. The 50GI will do what he wants with a 300 & costal makes a supressor for the 50cal.
Hope this helps, Ron"


I do not understand this????????????????? The 45winmag has moore case capacity than the 45acp. Why would the 45acp have enough power and the 45winmag not enough?????

swampf0x