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Old 05-22-2005, 12:39 PM
boars nest boars nest is offline
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WTK class 2 license

I'm new to this form.
would like to get a class two license. But after trying tro read the atf regs.
I'm more confuse then when I started.
Can you use existing parts to assemble a machine gun?
If anybody has been through this before I would appreciate any helpfull suggestions.
boars nest
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Old 05-22-2005, 08:08 PM
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I will try to keep it simple...

1.Be sure where you are planning to do business from is approved by your zoning board as commercial...to "manufacture". If its from your house, you will need a variance first (in writing) before the feds issue a license for that location.
2.Apply for your EIN(Employer Identification Number) with your state gov't when you register your business for tax purposes

3. Apply for a type 07 FFL($150). This will allow you to do everything an 01 can do, but you get to manufacture with it. Its nice just to have so you can do non NFA stuff also.The feds will come in to do a simple interview and explain everything you need to know after you apply for it


4. After you get your 07 FFL, Simply pay the $500(per year) to the NFA branchfor the "special tax stamp" which will allow you to manufacture all the good NFA stuff.

4. There are alot of mixed feelings about this next one, but I will mention it anyway. Register with the State Dept. and pay $600 a year to them. Its a sore subject and alot of guys dont bother with it. But you never heard that from me.

Do yourself a favor and buy the "Machine Gun Dealers Bible" that was put together specifically for what you have in mind. It explains it all in detailed, easy to understand language. It does not leave anything out. I think you can get it from the Small Arms Review web site here .....

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/bible.htm

Its not as hard or complicated as it may sound. You just dont want to get backed into a corner from ignorance of the law. I hope this helps you get started. You can call me for info on this because I really hate to type
Brian 585-638-8232
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Old 05-22-2005, 09:23 PM
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Thanks for the review Brian!

I am slowly working towards that goal myself but to become a gunsmith requires tools and skill. Over the past couple years I have worked to expand my skill and I have bought a whole bunch of tools from small items to some really big stuff (Say Gunsmith specific screwdrivers to a Bridegport Milling Machine).

I am goint to get my FFL to allow me to go gunsmithing work first but as I have read the BATFE requires that you have at least some hours during normal M-F business hours. My curent work arangement does not afford me that option so I have not been able to move forward with this at this time.

I have a ton of stuff I want to learn and while I am very comfortable with the AR-15, UZI and FAL when it comes to AKs I am not real confident yet... and when it comes to rebareling something like a bolt gun or even building my 1919a4 or Semiauto Bren I am downright ignorant.

Perhaps I am trying to do this for the wrong reason as I know lots of gunsmits that don't make a whole lot of money but I would love to give up my day job one of these years so that I could spend more time learning and working with something I really love. Oh well, some day I will get there I just can't give up the crazy job that I spent the last many years of my life working to get....
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Old 05-22-2005, 11:40 PM
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WTK class2

Brian
Thanks for taking the time to replay to my quiestion. Like I said I'm new to this form and it has already save me alot of time and probly greif.

Does anyone have any pet subsonic loads for a 7.62x39?
Kurt
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