Clarification on "Inventor" of the 300 "Whisper"

[Rattler347]

Originally Posted by martineta

I never had a reason to Butt Heads with JD. I have a bunch of his 10 inch contender barrels that I have resold to my paper and steel ram murdering pals in my shooting club in Paraguay. All my dealings with him have been great. He has stopped his work in his shop several times to come answer questions and give me advise on reloading. I like him a lot. My guess is we can all be pricks when the right button is pushed. Call me a lover of 300 WTF ever.

That is generally what I hear as well. As long as you are shooting SSK manufactured stuff, he is easy to deal with. Tell him you are using an Olympic or some other manufactured barrel, and he becomes Mt. Hyde.

Again, this is not an SSK bashing thread, never meant to be. I wish JDJ and SSK all the well wishes in the world. I just want credit to go where it is due, and not applied where it does not belong.

[Rattler347]

Originally Posted by Spook

So...was it JD that took the round into the subsonic realm? or Oly Arms?

Again, not really, but he popularized it that way. You have to remember, as other people have already pointed out, people were shooting this round in the late 60's and all through the 70's long before it was chambered in the AR. It was a very popular wildcat for nearly 30 years before SSK Trademarked the name Whisper®!

Originally Posted by Spook

I've also heard the stories about JD being cranky, but I've talked to him a dozen times on the phone from everything to identifying a used SSK 338W barrel to subsonic 308 Win...just like talking to anybody else.
It was JD that sold me a handfull of .510 cases and a set of dies and said "knock yourself out".
Perhaps there's something to be said for the way things are approached.
I've since purchased 2 sets of 338W and a set of 375W just by calling up and ordering. He's always been good to me.

Now I have to put the guys at Oly on my Christmas card list too.

Right, again, as long as you are using his stuff and buying things from Him, all will be well. He makes a GOOD product, so why not!

[Rattler347]

Originally Posted by Titleiiredneck

Still doesnot answer the question he was asked about in his first post here.

Have I answered that question yet? Sorry, am not meaning to avoid anything. Let me know if you still have questions. Happy to be of assistance.

[Titleiiredneck]

The reason your posts were moderated was probally for spam, just answering your posts from oa2.org

Also when you have 1 post and you start spouting off stuff no one takes you seriously "this is the internet ya know". My only take on the 30 fb/whisper/ BO is that its a fun cartridge to take game and shoot for fun and in comps under 600 yds, other than that its just another round. Something else will come out shortly like it always does and take the lead in the subsonic/supersonic world, peferrably in 416 or 458 and functions with supers and subs in a AR-10 platform :)



Again I stand with the first statement made in this thread as said below..

[Titleiiredneck]

Originally Posted by Rattler347

That is generally what I hear as well. As long as you are shooting SSK manufactured stuff, he is easy to deal with. Tell him you are using an Olympic or some other manufactured barrel, and he becomes Mt. Hyde.

Actually I talked to him on the phone a few times and asked about reloading 300 whisper 3 or 4 years ago and he was quite nice, I even stated it was a short barrel made by a member on here and he was happy it shot so well with supersonics. Come to think of it he even thanked me for actually listening to him ramble on HA! He was a happy camper about other people "hobbist gunsmiths" making simmilar stuff to keep subsonic shooting so active and alive. Quite frankly he did not seem angry at all about the fact that I couldnt afford to pay so much for a upper "SSK" and had to piece my first 300 together just to be able to afford it, and said call back anytime as it was very nice to talk to someone with the same interests in life and guns. He may have changed since then but I doubt it.

[HUNTER2]

Must of got onto some happy pills. Years back I was interested in getting his 50-70-750 ( another kind of 510 whisper ). Asked to get some reload data first so I could study it. NO WAY! Buy the barrel and it will be with it... OK. Bought the barrel ( shoots real good )and asked for some info on the 300 Whisper. Again - SOL.. A few months ago this forum went down for some reason. I got brave and emailed JD about the site since it was listed on his site. "No idea. Don't care if it stays down. It would make my life a lot simplier if all of those guys died!" Sure, he has changed!!!!~ Smart fellow with a bad attitude. Some of you like him and that is fine. Glad you had good dealings with him. He did a good thing for the industry the way he kept things alive. Long live the 300 WTF whoever came up with it!!!!!!

[daveinsvaz]

I have several 300 BLK/Whisper/30/221 in various forms (AR, Contender, 700 Remington), but recently I have found two unusual variations.
They are AR uppers. Shop made to left hand eject. Professionally made, but not a commercial item. The right hand port has been closed but is visible.
The handguards are heavy steel, not aluminum. They have three markings: "30 FB"; what appears to be initals "M.A.C." and a small symbol of three interlocked circles.
Barrels are very heavy 16" stainless barrels.
They are older. One still has an A1 'carry handle' rear sight. No forward assist. The other has the 'carry handle' machined off and a steel rail put on.
I believe thay originated in either Alaska or Idaho.
I have some pictures if someone could tell me how to upload them and the best format to utilize.

Dave Davidson
Sierra Vista, AZ

[Alleycat]

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Originally Posted by daveinsvaz

I have several 300 BLK/Whisper/30/221 in various forms (AR, Contender, 700 Remington), but recently I have found two unusual variations.
They are AR uppers. Shop made to left hand eject. Professionally made, but not a commercial item. The right hand port has been closed but is visible.
The handguards are heavy steel, not aluminum. They have three markings: "30 FB"; what appears to be initals "M.A.C." and a small symbol of three interlocked circles.
Barrels are very heavy 16" stainless barrels.
They are older. One still has an A1 'carry handle' rear sight. No forward assist. The other has the 'carry handle' machined off and a steel rail put on.
I believe thay originated in either Alaska or Idaho.
I have some pictures if someone could tell me how to upload them and the best format to utilize.

Dave Davidson
Sierra Vista, AZ

[daveinsvaz]

Pictures of 30 FB upper...

Thanks for information.

Dave

[Mike Bell]

MAC might be Military Armament Corp. which was located in Ducktown, TN. I think in the early 80's "Ingram" bought out MAC.


Maybe..............MAC was working on some proto type fireball .300/221 thingys back in the 70's ........maybe thats where the idea came from. And maybe this might be the chicken or the egg.