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Old 02-26-2006, 06:51 PM
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Hello GlockandRoll.
I never said that I was a Navy Seal; just raised by one. I was in the Army and also trained with the Navy Seals. As far as the Mil Dot goes, they are tried and true but very slow if you don't have a second person working out the calculations for range and hold over. I have no problem with them at all. As far the the Shepherd being garbage that is just a matter of opinion. I have used them in the field and never lost zero. It has functioned without a problem in temperatures from -15 to +130. My rifle has been banged around and I have never had a problem with the scope. The only thing that I wish it did have was a side focus. Just like anything that you buy, you will have better luck with one over the other and everybody will make a lemon now and again. I could sit here and tell you horer stories about Leupolds M3A that are standard on the M24 and problems that I have had with them but is doesn't make them junk. At a cost of $1300 for the M3A compared to $700 for my V2, I have had better results from my Shepherd. As far as a bubble level on your scope and or base I totaly agree with you. It will save you a lot of trouble and headache if you have them. I have no experiance with the Super Sniper scope so I can't say much about them, just that I have not heard anything bad about them. I have heard that they are fairly inexpensive for what you get.
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Old 02-26-2006, 09:20 PM
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Horror stories of the M3A leupolds ??

Code Red, Glockandroll call you on it about the navy now i will on the army, what special forces training and what trouble have you had with the M3A, the only problem i have ever seen with a M3A is untrained people screwing with it, and what was your class number for SFQC and Group ??
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Old 02-26-2006, 10:29 PM
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M3A problems

Hey Keith.
I have had a M3A take minor but a typical side impact and had the elevation recticle let loose at a very inopportune time. I have also seen all three of the turrets wear out, mostly the focus. I chalk it up to being used a lot and just some defective parts. Not that they are junk because they are not, just like I said that all people sometimes make a lemon. I have used them and other scopes and I have my preference. As far as training I said that I was traind by both Army and Navy SF. I was not part of a team. I was part of a SF experiment in the Amy. I worked with them and as one of them but I was not designated as a SF soldier. I had not completed Robin Sage so there for I was not a Green Beret and do not claim to be. My father was a Navy Seal. He was a sniper for IUWG 1/3 SEACOBRAS. He served three tours in Nam and was ranked as the Navy's top sniper in Viet Nam. I spent 10yrs training with my father and his team members.
You seem to know about SFQC and its workings so what is your storie?
I would love to chat more about it, my e-mail is cody.e.smith@us.army.mil if you are interested.
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