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Old 04-08-2011, 08:11 AM
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Here is a side by side comparison of Remington 220gr 300 AAC Blackout and Corbon 220gr 300 Whisper. They both feed like a champ in my Model 1 16" upper. As you can see the 220 300 Blackout is shorter than the Corbon. It seems to feed faster like the Corbon 150gr(not pictured), as compared to the longer 220 300 Whisper. I'm thinking the 220 300 Whisper is more accurate in my rifle because the bullet is closer to the rifling.
300 BLK: 220gr. --- 300 Whisper 220gr.
Case length: 1.355 --------- 1.340
Neck dia. .332 --------- .332
OAL 2.090 --------- 2.214

All that reamer talk was someone making a buck, cause they are the same. And Model 1 said not to shoot it. But they are idiots there. Just covering their ass for a new product they no nothing about.

Why it took this long for someone to compare them I don't know. I just got my BLK's today.
Corbon 220gr. Whisper / Remington 220gr. AAC Blackout
Pretty darn close, huh? Are the Blackouts any cheaper than the Corbons?
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Old 04-08-2011, 10:47 AM
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Yep

I believe the the blackouts are cheaper by 1/3 I think. I bought Corbons for a year and never got to enjoy my rifle as everytime I pulled the trigger I am thinking ouch $$$. I bought some hornady dies from SSK. 500 brass from Hoser. Now I am a maniac, shoot squirrels, groundhogs, paper, deer, whatever I want, whenever I want. I get to play with different loads. Never think about the cost at all. But,,,,,,I am shooting a single shot encore. I cant imagine shelling out for cartridges spraying with an AR,,, at least not on a hunting outfitter's income.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:34 AM
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Remington 300 AAC BLACKOUT is $12.99 MSRP for supersonic (though the design is being tweaked before more is made), and $21.99 MSRP for subsonic. CorBon is currently about $40-$45 a box for either.
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Old 04-08-2011, 07:44 PM
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[QUOTE=rsilvers;28462]Remington 300 AAC BLACKOUT is $12.99 MSRP for supersonic (though the design is being tweaked before more is made), and $21.99 MSRP for subsonic. CorBon is currently about $40-$45 a box for either.[/QUOTE


Yep...I'm in the wrong tax bracket to buy CorBons...that is an affordable "storebought" alternative....why are the subs so much more though?
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:14 PM
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The 2 reasons I can think of are componet cost and thats the desired round so they are more expensive. But I seriously doubt 220 smks cost $9 more for 20 pills compared to the 123 gr lmfao.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:43 PM
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The 2 reasons I can think of are componet cost and thats the desired round so they are more expensive. But I seriously doubt 220 smks cost $9 more for 20 pills compared to the 123 gr lmfao.
Redneck,

The long Sierra bullets are challenging to load, and the machine has to run slower. Even if this were not the case, you can't just take the difference in cost to us and say that should be the difference in MSRP. There is having to buy the bullets and have that money tied up until the sale, and then margin has to be added. On top of that, the 123 bullets are made by Remington, and so cost much less.

Sierra bullet 308 ammo costs like $30+ a box MSRP, so $22 was us trying to make it affordable. It is literally 1/2 the price of the competition.

http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct...tNumber=791456

And 168 grain bullets from Sierra cost a lot less than the 220s.

The 220 is not padded in price because it is desirable, rather the 123 has even lower margin to have one load as promotional ammo to give people something to shoot.
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Old 04-08-2011, 11:33 PM
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What I was taught in MBA school

In the words of my dear old Daddy ,,,Raise the prices until the players start to leave the table.

What we learned in Grad school, first day of finance class.

A company reason of being is to Maximize the return to its investors.

I believe it to be true.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:17 PM
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Subs are costly

Check the prices for 220, 230, or 240 gr sierra matchkings and you will see why the subs cost more. Want to be further shocked. Check out the 240 and 225 grain Outlaw state bullets. I love the 225 gr outlaws to hunt with but at $1.25 each for just the bullet, a tad rich for plinking but great for killing. IMHO.
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Old 04-08-2011, 08:41 PM
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I did, $190 for 500 220 gr so thats $0 .34 per round or a tad over 7 bux per 20. Now back out the cost of 123 otm and tell me its $9.00 more to produce this ammo per box of 20. Its nothing more than rem making a few extra bucks off people who donot reload because we all know there isnot a $9 diffrence in manufacturing costs even if remington paid $190.00 per 500 for 220gr smks " which they arenot".
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