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Old 03-03-2011, 03:04 PM
buffetdestroyer buffetdestroyer is offline
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Poor Man's Ballistic Drop Turret for Sightmark 1.5-5x30 - 175 Grain BTHP 300WTF Load

So my other scope stopped holding zero on my .300 WTFever and was a second focal plane BDC reticle which was only true on 9 power (which was more than needed for a shorter range subsonic Short Barreled Rifle), so I decided to get another scope while I wait on the warranty for the other - it was a Hawke Endurance, which didn't endure.

I wanted something under the $200 range since a Nightforce or IOR is out of reach financially and the 300 WTFever is just a fun plinking/training gun due to its quiet nature and steep trajectory. To all the "if your rifle rig doesn't cost as much as a sports car it isn't good" crowd, I have other guns for hunting and defense with bullet proof higher-end optics (Nightforce and IOR). I built the upper in its current configuration using Spook's barrel and used parts from Arfcom for less than $500, and my plinking load costs as much as cheap steel cased 9mm rounds so it is affordable, quiet and fun. No, it is not a post apocalyptic end-all firearm setup that needs to last a continuous 200,000+ full auto rounds through Zombie War III.

Back to optics, I was initially leaning towards the Millett DMS-1 since I didn't feel that I needed or wanted a large amount of magnification, but I really wanted a reticule that would work well at multiple ranges for holdover with subsonic loads. I came across the Sightmark 1.5-5x30 with First Focal Plane Mil Dot for $130 and thought I would give it a try since each mil is pretty close to 25 yards with 50 yard zero with my load of 7.8-7.9 grains of Alliant 2400 (using a Lee Pro Disk measure on a progressive) with pulled M118LR 175 Grain Sierra Matchking HPBT bullets. It chronies right at 1030 FPS with this load at around 55-60 degrees & an elevation of 4,200 Feet.

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When I got it, I was very impressed with the quality for a cheaper Chinese made scope. The glass was clear, the clicks were audible and distinguishable, and the FFP reticle looked great with the 1.5 power looking like a Leupold Fine Plex and from about 2.5x up the mil dots are easily distinguishable. The knobs have 20 MOA of adjustment per rotation and several people have gotten over 200 MOA in total adjustment out of their scope, far more than I need to get to 300 yards (it takes .98 seconds to get that far with my load).

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I knew my trajectory data for my load by plugging in my the bullet and conditions along with my velocity data into the JBM Trajectory website which produces free data tables for whatever loads you might have. With the 20 MOA knobs, there was plenty of space on the knob to make a poor man's ballistic turret (a la the kind Leupold and Kenton Industries make for well over $100/knob), so I had my wife print out 25 yard increments starting at 75 since my zero is at 50 yards on her digital label maker. She printed the smallest font it would do and they have an adhesive back.

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Using the data, I cut them out into small pieces and stuck them on the knob to the closest quarter MOA. It was a hell of a day to have cut my fingernails first!

I also wanted a very visible zero marker so that I don't get confused by the now partially obstructed 0 and 1 due to the 300 marker being on the third rotation between these numbers (40.5 MOA). So I got some of my Birchwood Casey orange target pasters to make two sticky orange triangles - one for the turret, and one for the turret tube. The final step was sealing them on with matte Scotch Tape.

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The best part about this process is that it only took about a half an hour with a cost of just a few cents in materials. Also, I can easily change my load if I want to and not have to throw away a knob that I payed $120 for just by pulling off the Scotch tape and repeating the process. While I'm sure this won't hold up to the Tactical crowd's durability requirements, it makes a fun little range toy that actually provides great long range training by setting clay pigeons at unknown distances (to 300 yards) and having to range and adjust 40 MOA without needing a 1000 yard range and $2+/round long range ammo.

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Old 03-03-2011, 04:19 PM
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looks good .. how about a range report?
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Old 03-03-2011, 04:26 PM
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looks good .. how about a range report?
I will if weather permits this weekend. I am really looking forward to playing with it.

I zeroed the scope last weekend and was very happy... but what fun is life if you don't have projects like this?
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Old 03-04-2011, 02:06 AM
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I will if weather permits this weekend. I am really looking forward to playing with it.

I zeroed the scope last weekend and was very happy... but what fun is life if you don't have projects like this?
Great idea, i saw the sightmark scopes on ebay for 99 shipped and bought one wednesday so i hope its decent! Glad the quality is good since i was concerned about that on a scope of this price! cant wait to see your range report!
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:43 PM
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Sightmark with Ballistic Turret Range Report

The weather cooperated this weekend and I got to play today!

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I was debating whether I would use a flat range, but instead opted for my secret canyon which is about 700-800 feet higher in elevation than my usual shooting spot (which only allows shots to about 100 yards without major elevation shifts). The ballistic difference shouldn't be enough to matter from the 4,200 feet used on the JBM program.

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I went out with my handy rig. The .300 WTF is a 10.5" stainless steel barrel (Kryloned Black) made by Spook, a Spikes Tactical .22 upper, Yankee Hill free float quadrail, Magpul AFG, Harris Bipod with the pivot spring, Vltor modstock and Magpul MOE pistol Grip (stuffed with a ziplock bag containing all the hex wrenches for scope and mounts). The receiver is my form 1 Battle Born billet lower by U.S. Firearms Academy here in Reno, Nevada with a standard trigger setup that I ground the hammer to a speed hammer profile and I am using JP reduced power springs so that my 5.5" .22LR upper will function smoothly and the pull is around 4-4.5 lbs. The scope is the Sightmark 1.5-5x30 and the rings are the 6 screw high Weaver Tactical (US Made) with Yankee Hill mini-risers. The suppressor is an HTG M30-A .308 with standard 5/8x24 threads. Additional toys included my Caldwell bag for steady shooting and my trusty Bushnell Elite 1500 range finder (I've gotten it out to 1,100 yards). Being the earth-conscious responsible individual I am, the clay pigeons are biodegradable.

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I set up the range using a clay pigeon to mark my shooting position and bringing the range finder on my brisk jaunt around the canyon. I set up a 50 yard, 75 yard and 100 yard known distance setup to see if I was close on tracking. The remaining few I set up where they were not going to be impeded by rocks, bushes, vegetation or other obstructions at unknown distances way out there. I figured this would challenge me to use the knobs in a real life situation where everything isn't at 25 yard increments.

Upon returning, I engaged my 50 yard target first to confirm that I hadn't screwed up my zero playing with the knob. It drilled a hole in the center of the first pigeon without shattering it, so I knew it was within minute of clay-pigeon to my zero. I then set it for the 75 yard pigeon on my new ballistic knob.

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Clay pigeon guts rained down the mountain side.

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My 100 yard distance had two targets and I easily hit them both (4 for 4 at this point). The wind had blown my 150ish and 175ish targets off the branches I hung them on (it took a lot longer to set them up than to blow them up) so I was left with one on a rock that ranged at 192 yards. I backed down 1 click from 200 and shot over, so I backed off another click and it kablooeyed.

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I ranged the next target and it said it was 204 yards, but I later figured out that the rock just below it was 204 and the clay pigeon was sitting safe and comfortably at 232 yards. I walked out to see where the bullets were hitting (thinking it was close, but needing windage), I realized that I was far more than 10 yards from the rock that I shattered the other target on. I added another pigeon next to the the untouched far one but when I re-ranged and it, I realized my error and adjusted the turret two clicks past the 225 marker on the turret. I shot right due to a mild wind and adjusted two clicks of windage left and shattered them both with sequential shots. I then returned to a new target at 75 to ensure tracking was working. 75 shattered orange and black bits on the snow. I found a small rock at 50 yards with my rangefinder and returned the turret to zero and broke the rock into jumping pieces of igneous debris. My cheap little Sightmark and home-made ballistic turrets had tracked perfectly out to 232 yards and back (the canyon limited shots to high angles if I were to test out to 300 yards - but I know it works to at least 28.5 MOA).

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The reticle on 5 power was thick enough to cover the majority of the pigeon at 232 yards, but I could still still see little bits of orange around the center of it.

So in summary, my setup was reliable, quiet and when I ranged the targets properly, dead on! I am very happy!

As a side note, even though I went out alone, I have a witness to this that watched me from an oblique angle while I shot. She even whinnied at me asking what I was doing. No wild mustangs were harmed during the making of this report, but where I shoot you always have to be cognizant of them when setting up targets since they are so accustomed to shooters and people that they will often wander down the hill into your field of fire without a care in the world even when you are shooting without a suppressor.

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Old 03-05-2011, 10:49 PM
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Thanks for the excellent range report. That's some very impressive shooting from a 10.5 inch barrel. I might have to follow your lead and set up a scope like that.
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Old 03-07-2011, 08:05 PM
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I think I might also add an "L" and "R" to the windage knob since the scope doesn't have an arrow visible from the cheekweld. I will post the results when I get it done.
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Old 07-27-2011, 06:41 AM
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Nice post! Really great information that provides very good ideas. It was an awesome shooting from a 10.5 inch barrel. You have done an excellent job buffetdestroyer. Thanks for sharing with us.
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Old 08-02-2011, 01:04 PM
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Bought the model you have and had a problem with the lens, sent it back and they gave me the 3x9 model which works great. Going to run a few hundred more coverts through the gun and will follow up with a range report in the next few weeks.
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