I used 4.5 gr of TiteGroup in mixed pedigree brass (LC, FC, Win, Rem) and a Magtech 71/2 SR primer to push a 150 gr FMJBT (by Golden West Brass) out of my 16 inch Howa bolt gun. Used a moderate Lee FCD crimp on 'em too. They averaged ~1030 fps and gave me ~2 moa accuracy. Cheap little plinkers and very quiet. They will not cycle in my Whisper AR.
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