Any interest in cast bullets?

[thehouseproduct]

Originally Posted by madscientist

Lee Alox is your friend
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xG2MF...eature=related

Would this work for the whisper leads also?
Pending tumbling post loading to remove excess.

I've tried it and I'm not happy with it all over the whole boolit. I guess im too anal and want my ammo clean. I'm happy with thenice product that lube sizing gives.

[madscientist]

You can tumble the excess or wipe the bullets with some mineral spirits after loading.

[Crawdaddy]

I use the LLA on pistol bullets. There is a ton of good information here:

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=67654

As Madscientist said, you can wipe off any excess with mineral spirits, including the lube on the front of the bullet if you desire. It comes right off.

If you use the Johnson's paste wax and LLA mix or one of the other ways to make the LLA dry completely, it's really not that messy.

Crawdaddy

[jimpa]

I would be interested in one of those molds. Saw the guy that i bought my suppressor from today and he was talking about the 300acc and said to keep eyes peeled this coming year for bullets that expand at subsonic veloictys

[gds]

I use the lee 200gr gas checked at 1025fps with 10.1gr aa1680 with a carbine position gas port drilled at .125. functions good and is relatively accurate.

[hugginsvilleH&A]

Glad to see you guys using cast. I had posted about this a couple/3 yrs ago and got flamed about how "you cant use cast it will ruin your gun or can" bla bla bla, so I did it anyway and still do use cast I use a LBT mold that throws 200gr w/ LBT blue lube and have used some of his methods from his cast bullet performance books works very well and the last yr I have been using the hoch mold that throws 225gr 1 1/4" bullet closer to the sierra 220 dimension and I to have found the cast will run up to at times 250-300fps faster so you have to adjust your charge accordingly. again its nice to see some caster proving it can be done, keep up the good work guys its a fun wildcat to play/tinker with, I love my whisper and may oneday graduate up to the 458 socom once I get out of these obamanomics economy

[BWE Firearms]

How do you like the Hoch 225 gr mold?

[srm109]

I've been running RCBS 30-180's through my M1S carbine. I've heard all that yak about "fouling up the barrel, fouling the gas system...." I deliberately shot mine over 300 times just to see if it would ever foul up and stop cycling, it never did - so I finally cleaned it! I figgure that if it does ever foul, I'll just take it apart and scrub it out, or replace the gas tube, nothing to it.

I was loading 13.6 grains of Reloader 7 for about 1200fps. Not subsonic, but a nice load that cycles the bolt well since my carbine is not set up for subsonic loads.

I would like to find out more on the bullet mold that was originally mentioned in this post. The RCBS's come up a little short in the magazine, and tend to jamb in the chamber if seated out too far.

[Crawdaddy]

I did a function and penetration test with the Lee 200 gr gas checked bullet yesterday. Alloy was water dropped wheel weights, with 10.5 gr 1680.

Rounds were supersonic and point of impact was the same as my 220 HRN sub load at 100 yards. No problems cycling whatsoever across the 10 rounds fired.

Informal "penetration" test done with 3/8 OSB in front of a 2 gallon water jug and 2 2x6s leaned against the water jug at 50 yards. 220 SMKs and 220 HRNs both drilled caliber size holes through both 2x6s and didn't even knock them over.

The Lee bullet struck the first 2x with a slight wobble and exited COMPLETELY SIDEWAYS and embedded itself rear-end first in the second 2x. That's a 90 degree revolution in about the length of the bullet!!! Seems to me that this one would be set to "puree" in a test media of the swine variety.

Also, I'm now a firm believer in the water drop method of heat treating wheel weights. The bullet was essentially undamaged, with only rifling marks and possibly a (very) slight bend in the shank. The gas check was still attached, and all of the lube was used up.

Will try a softer alloy (ACWW, WW/PB mix, etc.) next to see if I can get some deformation in addition to the tumbling.

It doesn't get any cheaper to load the whisper than this.

Anyone else have any results to share?

Crawdaddy

[BWE Firearms]

Crawdaddy, thanks for the info.

I did some quick calculations last night and found that theoretically the heaviest bullet we can use in a 1-8" twist .308 barrel is 265 grains. Would there be enough interest in a 250-265 grain cast bullet to justify having molds made and making bullets. I would have both bullets and molds available for sale if there was enough interest.