Conversion to 300 AAC BLACKOUT reamer

[rsilvers]

Yes, sorry - you should have never had to go through that. I know what waiting and not getting anything is like. I had five Shrikes on deposit for a few years. But yes, not the same thing as he never said it was in stock - but then again, no one expected to wait that long. Finally I bailed.

Our Model-7 rifles use Fireball parts in the action. In your experience how much a difference do the Fireball parts make over 223 parts?

[Titleiiredneck]

Originally Posted by rsilvers

Yes, sorry - you should have never had to go through that. I know what waiting and not getting anything is like. I had five Shrikes on deposit for a few years. But yes, not the same thing as he never said it was in stock - but then again, no one expected to wait that long. Finally I bailed.

Our Model-7 rifles use Fireball parts in the action. In your experience how much a difference do the Fireball parts make over 223 parts?

Alot if done right, but hey if someone can find a fireball action then that may make a diffrence but I doubt everyone will and when people who convert a 223,204 or what not to this caliber and cases start to fall off the boltface then yall may have problems. I have had 3, "300/whatever ya wana call it today" chambered rem's over the years all failed at this except for one that I converted from 221 that was luckily found at a pawnshop. It would fail every now and then but rarely. Only action's that I know of that willnot fail in this case "pun intended" is the howa 1500 and cz.

It's just simply too short of a case for the rem 700 action unless you modify the bolt to fix issues. So the question is why modify a bolt on a rem when I can get a better reciver with the mods done at the factory for under $350 and chamber a new/better blank for less then what you ask for a 300/whatever barrel?

[Spook]

Originally Posted by rsilvers

This same brass is used in SAAMI proof ammo at over 70,000 psi but member companies will not load this ammo over normal pressure guidelines. In my own hand-loading, I only load to what I have reason to believe is 55,000 psi.

I don't know how the thickness compares to 221 Fireball brass. I believe it holds 25.1 grains of water to overflow, if that helps.

Have the pressure stats been made available for the new whisper?

[rsilvers]

300 AAC BLACKOUT is 55,000 MAP by SAAMI method.

The latest version of QuickLoad has 300 AAC BLACKOUT in it, I am told - though I have not seen that yet.

I measured some fired cases in an AR chamber and they held an average of 25.1 grains of H2O to overflow.

[Spook]

Explains why the brass is left unpolished

[rsilvers]

That is why the military does not allow polishing. Consumers, I am told, want it polished and associate polished ammo with premium ammo. I specified unpolished, waterproof primers, etc.

[Titleiiredneck]

Still wanting to know about the question I asked you before, will your aac fodder work in a whisper chamber? Or if someone shoots it, will it chamber and screw up their gun with pressure problems? If so I suggest you make that well known since it may be a bad idea not to

[rsilvers]

300 AAC BLACKOUT has the same headspace as 221 Fireball.

As far as I know, and the drawings I have seen so far, 30-221 and 300 Whisper(TM) also have the same headspace as 221 Fireball.

Because a Wildcat has no standard, we cannot know what your chamber is like, and so cannot say it is ok to shoot it. Your gun maker has to determine if it is safe to fire 300 AAC BLACKOUT in their gun as they know the chamber dimensions. Noveske has said that his most recent 300 Fireball barrels, after a certain serial number range, were safe to use.

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[Titleiiredneck]

Originally Posted by rsilvers

300 AAC BLACKOUT has the same headspace as 221 Fireball.

As far as I know, and the drawings I have seen so far, 30-221 and 300 Whisper(TM) also have the same headspace as 221 Fireball.

Because a Wildcat has no standard, we cannot know what your chamber is like, and so cannot say it is ok to shoot it. Your gun maker has to determine if it is safe to fire 300 AAC BLACKOUT in their gun as they know the chamber dimensions. Noveske has said that his most recent 300 Fireball barrels, after a certain serial number range, were safe to use.

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Hey you just need to make it known so no one gets hurt. I would hate to see someone get the wrong info and crap their gun and or substain a injury dude. When you go into production of "wildcat" ammo, epsecially when it was moreless designed by ssk and not to their specs which everyone has run a basic standard on for years it can run into problems, not saying it WILL but just COULD happen.

Neverless if the subsonic ammo rem produces can be fired in most "300/whatever you wana call it today" chambers then thats great! More people in the whisper the better and mabye some real production rifles in the future will come of it from more makers than just remington.

[thehouseproduct]

So is this just a throating reamer thAt has a stop?