Tried 175 grn ball ammo from Wideners?

[sten668]

I bought a bunch of these bullets to shoot in 30 cal guns with a can.
Out of my Rem 788, 300 fireball, sub sonic they group .6 inches at 100 ids.
I tested them on water jugs and they were coming out the back sideways.
I did a flesh test on a 120 lamb (yes I know, it was a butcher lamb and I just had to) the bullets tumbled tearing up one side of the lungs at 60 yards and exiting into never never land. Boy do 4H lambs taste good.
I have not shot this bullet super sonic yet.

[deervalleygun]

What was your load data, and where you thinking about loading up some supersonic rounds?

[usmc1986]

Sounds like the only rifle ever that's liked them. Most folks I know that have tried them said that they were barely worth it for plinking.

[Scalce]

How many shots in your groupings?

Any pics of targets?

I am interested in your load data as well since they seem to be so inconsistent for me and others.

[sten668]

I load my subs with 6.2 grains of Unique with Rem 7 1/2 BR primers seated 1.78 in to ogive for the 788 with a 17 inch PAC-NOR 1 in 8 twist barrel. The chamber reamer was a 300 TIW, my smith said it was the same as a 300/221. All the brass is Rem 221 Fireball expanded out with Redding dies, all flash holes trued and all trimmed to 1.355, 3 shot groups.
I have loaded 16 grains of H110 for the AR with a M1S barrel for super sonic but I have only
fired a few into a back stop to make sure the action would function. I have 200 rounds loaded but have not gone out yet to break in the new lower.(crummy weather)
I have a 16 inch barrel with the carbine gas tube. I am going to try some 1680 for subs in it.

[Scalce]

Originally Posted by sten668

I load my subs with 6.2 grains of Unique with Rem 7 1/2 BR primers seated 1.78 in to ogive for the 788 with a 17 inch PAC-NOR 1 in 8 twist barrel. The chamber reamer was a 300 TIW, my smith said it was the same as a 300/221. All the brass is Rem 221 Fireball expanded out with Redding dies, all flash holes trued and all trimmed to 1.355, 3 shot groups.
I have loaded 16 grains of H110 for the AR with a M1S barrel for super sonic but I have only
fired a few into a back stop to make sure the action would function. I have 200 rounds loaded but have not gone out yet to break in the new lower.(crummy weather)
I have a 16 inch barrel with the carbine gas tube. I am going to try some 1680 for subs in it.

Thanks for the info

I don't think 3 shot groups really tell the whole story of a particular load or bullet.

I can shoot an ocassional sub 1" 3 shot group with the 175 milsurp bullets either in my 308s or 300 Whisper but I rarely shoot a sub 1" group with 5 or more shots in a group which I think is a better indicator of a good load.

[sten668]

Yes 5 shots groups tell more about a load and a 100 shot group would tell even more. I think the first one is the only to count on. So I'm ok with a 3 shot group.

[Scalce]

Originally Posted by sten668

Yes 5 shots groups tell more about a load and a 100 shot group would tell even more. I think the first one is the only to count on. So I'm ok with a 3 shot group.

Well in that case I guess they shoot .308" one round groups in my guns.