Tried 175 grn ball ammo from Wideners?
 

I bought a bunch of these bullets to shoot in 30 cal guns with a can.
Out of my Rem 788, 300 fireball, sub sonic they group .6 inches at 100 ids.
I tested them on water jugs and they were coming out the back sideways.
I did a flesh test on a 120 lamb (yes I know, it was a butcher lamb and I just had to) the bullets tumbled tearing up one side of the lungs at 60 yards and exiting into never never land. Boy do 4H lambs taste good.
I have not shot this bullet super sonic yet.

What was your load data, and where you thinking about loading up some supersonic rounds?

Sounds like the only rifle ever that's liked them. Most folks I know that have tried them said that they were barely worth it for plinking.

How many shots in your groupings?

Any pics of targets?

I am interested in your load data as well since they seem to be so inconsistent for me and others.

I load my subs with 6.2 grains of Unique with Rem 7 1/2 BR primers seated 1.78 in to ogive for the 788 with a 17 inch PAC-NOR 1 in 8 twist barrel. The chamber reamer was a 300 TIW, my smith said it was the same as a 300/221. All the brass is Rem 221 Fireball expanded out with Redding dies, all flash holes trued and all trimmed to 1.355, 3 shot groups.
I have loaded 16 grains of H110 for the AR with a M1S barrel for super sonic but I have only
fired a few into a back stop to make sure the action would function. I have 200 rounds loaded but have not gone out yet to break in the new lower.(crummy weather)
I have a 16 inch barrel with the carbine gas tube. I am going to try some 1680 for subs in it.

Thanks for the info

I don't think 3 shot groups really tell the whole story of a particular load or bullet.

I can shoot an ocassional sub 1" 3 shot group with the 175 milsurp bullets either in my 308s or 300 Whisper but I rarely shoot a sub 1" group with 5 or more shots in a group which I think is a better indicator of a good load.

Yes 5 shots groups tell more about a load and a 100 shot group would tell even more. I think the first one is the only to count on. So I'm ok with a 3 shot group.

Well in that case I guess they shoot .308" one round groups in my guns.

:rolleyes: