Choosing the right Optics

[este]

You both completely missed his point. Which is perfectly valid.

At 300 yards, a subsonic whisper bullet will drop so much that you had better be damn sure of your distance you you'll miss by feet in drop alone. Not to mention the effect wind has on the bullet by that distance.

If I have a range finder and really really want to hit 400 yards on a perfectly clear day I know that is possible. I had better know the -exact- distance and be really lucky with the wind though. Even then it's more luck than skill imo. I would also suggest using whisper for no more than 200yards ideally and get a scope to match.

Is it possible to get a longer distance scope with more adjustment? Yes of course. Is shooting that far, at the point where it just becomes a toss up fun ? Not so much to me. If you know better than just get a 10-25x scope and post your results instead of arguing with someone saying something you don't want to hear.

[Alleycat]

We have a range set up at one place out to 800 yds. The second range goes out to 1000 yds. From 500 yds out we use steel plates. I shoot a 6.5 WSM with a Berger 140 with a .640 BC from 500 out to 1000 yds. It's a lot of fun. I also shoot my Whisper at the same two ranges. Usually between 100 yds and 300 yds. 250 yds is as far as I would shoot at deer with subsonic rounds. 300 yds is as far as I would shoot at deer with supersonic Whisper rounds, but that's just me. If you were looking at a 500 target plate and had a 300 Whisper you would send one down range too. Why do I do it? Because I can. The Whisper with supersonic 125 BT will hold 1 MOA at 500 yds. Steel doesn't feel so why the hell not. I have never shot the 240s for groups @ 500, but you can hit the 3' x 3' plate with regularity.(If there is little or no wind) If you're ever in middle TN let me know, we shoot on Sundays except when hunting. I'll show you some more crazy shit we do.

[d-mon]

What about these babies guys?

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-Scopes-C1719.aspx

All of you who live in the US of A can buy them.
But he would not ship to international countries (even if our boys are fighting alongside your boys in Middle east). But he has his reasons that I respect.

I use a leupold vari xll 3x9x40 with a mildot reticle and I also have the target turrets, but I have not enough elevation with the current set up to use them. So I am zeroed at 100m and use the mildot for shooting out to 200m.

ND