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Old 01-05-2009, 10:44 PM
hugginsvilleH&A hugginsvilleH&A is offline
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frank no one said anyone was "making things up" and I dont think I was "chastizing" anyone if you read my post I did say "no insult meant for all the fair warnings being giving, I do appreciate their input and advice" just wanted to hear from someone who actually tried it and their experience was____ . thats all that was meant. like I said before I appreciated everyones input , but everyone immediately jumped in dont do it and reason is they "heard" this and that. just looking for first hand experience thats all. cleaning of suppressors is manditory weather jacketed or lead, am I correct on this assumption? I will not be shooting 500 rounds a sitting, mine was more for the when the SHTF mode of pouring cast for ALL the guns I own if the obamanation wants to do something stupid with the ammo supply I would have my bases covered , that was all
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Old 01-06-2009, 03:51 AM
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I understand your post and didn't mean to be chastizing you either.....it just seems to come out that way. I also realize there is a lot of internet chatter from guys who have never seen a suppressor but want to give advice so thats why I added the experience section to my post.

Now to answer that last bit you added, I don't clean any of the highpower supressors if I'm shooting jacketed bullets. In fact, the subgun cans don't really need to be cleaned either in most cases. Its the .22 cans that need cleaning and the big reason for that is the lead bullets that are fired through them. So in answer to your question I'd say no, suppressors don't really need to be cleaned if you don't shoot nonjacketed lead through them. Most of the debris you get in a low power suppressor can be easily cleaned with a dip in the solvent and only when you build up enough that its really noticable. I've fired over 500 rds in one sitting through a Gemtech Raptor 9mm can and not had to clean it. In fact, I've never cleaned the Raptor and I don't see any reason to. On the other hand, a customer regularly shoots cast lead through his CAC-9 suppressor on an M11/9 subgun and he cleans it regularly. I made a stainless blast baffle for him which he can blast or chem strip for that reason. It builds a pretty good coat of glass on that blast baffle in a few hundred rounds. Once again though, its a subgun that has a very high rate of fire so heat buildup is quick and for lead, heat is bad.

I hope that helps answer your question and if I seem overbearing and obnoxious its just me. Its not meant to be personal toward you.
Frank
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Old 01-14-2009, 12:14 AM
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I have shot a lot of 200gr cast bullets out of my AR type whisper. I have not noticed any leading problem but the bolt and inside of the upper reciever get filthy fast. I use liquid alox as my lube and gas checks on my bullets.
Not to hijack this thread but I have a trident on the way and have been wondering about cast bullets too. I know about the leading problem but have found a little info on cleaning it.
Specifically using one of those electronic defoulers like the Outer Foul Out set up.
Is it possible to remove the lead fouling with something like this? I kow it won't remover powder fouling, that iw what the Kroil is for, but what about the lead?
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Old 01-30-2009, 02:06 AM
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Gentlemen,
I have recently made a bullet mold specifically for the .300Whisper. Its a 275 grain bullet with no lube grooves or gas check in an effort to maintain a high BC. The profile of the bullet is about the same as the Sierra BTMHP.

Since I have found that most lead bullets have a really blunt tip, they must be seated very deeply in the case to even chamber.Once you did that, they didnt feed in my Remington 700 that I built at all. They were a single shot propostition that I wasnt happy at all with.

So, I designed a bullet to be cast from lead that has a spitzer tip. Knowing that pointed lead tipped bullets are just waiting to be smashed, I put an 1/8 flat on them. Eventually, I'd like to try hollowpointing them.

A soft lead hp bullet that weighs 275 grains would be devastating on anything that it hit...ecpecially deer. To keep leading to a minimum, I plan on lubing them with Moly Coat,which will be applied in a tumbler.

Here is a picture of what I've got.



and here is the mold that made it, along with the single flute cutter that I used to bore the mold with...


What do yall think?
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:04 AM
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damn nice- two questions
1- have you test fired any yet?
2- will you be selling bullets or molds?
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Old 01-30-2009, 09:57 AM
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I've shot a total of 2 unlubed bullets through my can. They fed well and I hit was I was aiming at.I didn't want to shoot more than that because I haven't got my Moly Coating powder from Midway yet.

I made this in my shop and have no plans to sell them,I doubt that there is really a demand for them. For the time I've got in it, I'm not sure that I could make it economically. I might be persuaded to sell some IF this little project works out.

I'm still in the experimentation stage.
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Old 01-30-2009, 05:39 PM
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looking forward to seeing how they play out.
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Old 02-05-2009, 08:00 PM
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Wow, nice molds/bullets. I would like to get my hands on a few of those.
I too am very interested in how they turn out at the range.
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Old 02-08-2009, 04:37 PM
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When you cast five bullets at a time, how long does it take to do, say a 100?
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Old 02-08-2009, 08:24 PM
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Dont know, havent tried it yet.

Making 20 took maybe 4 minutes total.
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