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Old 12-27-2008, 03:25 AM
Fudmottin Fudmottin is offline
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Nope. You can set it up yourself at home.
How do you do that? What are the costs? Is it guaranteed to pass BATFE and a Class III dealer's scrutiny?

How do NFA transfers actually go on a trust anyway? Could someone verbally walk me through the process, please? I've gone through the Form-4 thing, so I know how that dance goes.

Mind you, if an NFA lawyer in my area is willing to do it for a reasonable fee (I don't have a definition of reasonable, but anything that causes sticker shock ain't it), I would go that route just to have
  • Someone I can sue if it turns out to be bogus.
  • Have a known lawyer I can turn to if I had to. Needing a lawyer is the wrong time to start looking
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Old 12-27-2008, 01:25 PM
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All of mine are on trusts!

Your remark of:
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Someone I can sue if it turns out to be bogus.
Makes me want to tell you to go figure it out for yourself!

Interceptor gave you good information!
There are MANY posts here & on http://www.silencertalk.com/forum/ to help you figure it out!
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:51 PM
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[*]Someone I can sue if it turns out to be bogus.

That pretty much signals the end of me posting on the subject to you. Have a nice day.
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Old 12-28-2008, 05:13 PM
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Interceptor...I agree with you on this. There are some real strange folk out there...
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Old 12-28-2008, 10:35 PM
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I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sound crass or anything. A few days ago I didn't know these alternatives existed. Had no clue. So I am grateful for the information.

Dealing with NFA firearms carries legal risks if you don't know all the rules. I'm not interested in facing a ten year prison sentence and $250,000 because I forgot to check a box on a form or something like that. For all I know, that might happen if I was using Quicken or something like that.

The "it" in "it turns out to be bogus" was meant to refer to the trust created, not the information you were giving. I've researched enough to know that these trusts are real and do not game the system. I've got a recommendation for an experienced NFA trust lawyer. So I've got someone to call.

If a lawyer screws up, that's malpractice. So there is legal recourse. If I screw up using a DIY trust kit, I think I'm up a rather famous creek without a paddle.

So again, I'm sorry if there was any misunderstanding. I'm just trying to dot my echos and cross my tangos.
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Old 12-30-2008, 07:14 PM
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Another reason I went w/AAC's 762SD is that it is rated up to a 300 Win Mag!
I also like the fact that it does not shoot loose like some of the other units you hear about.

Are you sure that the 7.62-SD is rated to 300 win mag? The AAC site lists a 300-SD for the win mag http://www.advanced-armament.com/300_sd.asp

I'd hate to try a 7.62-SD on a 300WM and destroy the can.

Jim
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Old 12-31-2008, 07:59 AM
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Take this with a grain of salt. Or perhaps an entire jar.

I would expect that if you used the smaller suppressor you would get less noise reduction and a hotter can. The muzzle pressure is certainly higher in a .300 Win Mag over a .308 Win. But if the can is built to the standards AAC claims, I don't think it will burst or anything like that.

You may also want to wait longer between shots.

I don't think many of the .30 cal cans are rated for full auto fire. So you might think of a .300 Win Mag as two rapid shots of a .308. That is assuming the baffles are properly secured.

According to AWC, the .300 Win Mag produces the same sound pressure levels as a .308 Winchester. The difference, which increases the perceived noise, is that the duration of the blast is longer. If this is true, then the muzzle pressure is limited by the diameter of the barrel. You just have more hot gas pouring through over a longer period of time.

That said, I would go for a proper .300 Win Mag can if I was shooting .300 Win Mag.
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Old 12-31-2008, 09:46 AM
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I have an email from Freddy @ AAC that states:

"If the cartridge generates less pressure than a 300win mag and the bullet is 308 or smaller in diameter you should have no problems."

This is one of the reasons that I purchased the 762sd!
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Old 12-31-2008, 02:04 PM
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Well thats great news! I'll be able to use my SD on the 300 win mag & 7mm rem mag.

Jim
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Old 01-02-2009, 09:24 AM
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I have AAC Cyclone - at the Time I researched my purchase, it wasn't the quietest can for sub or supersonic loadings but it was in the top for each catagory - Although if I was limiting my budget and purchasing now I would buy YHM 7.62 and get FH's for my Whisper, FAL and AR15 and use the same can on all of them.

My cyclone was made in 2005, and is NOT rated for use in 300 win mag only the newer cyclones without the plug welding are listed as able to be used on 300 win mag and you
have to take into acct the barrel length as it determines pressure of the muzzle blast the cyclone has to handle. As far as litigation goes, I wouldn't want to touch your case as all the maker's sell cans with enough statements as to when their intended use is and not warrentied for any other use either expressed or implied.

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