Buck 188 > without pommel latch

[cwmosshead]

I just purchased a Buck 188 > that has a plain round pommel without latch and a cross guard like the Lan Cay M-11. Does anyone know of this variant? I don't know if I done this correctly but heres the photo link.

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/ph...ry.php?cat=564

[biboufab]

" Assembling commercial for commercial sell " ... Good knife for the fishing .

Mister Moon for WWW.M9M4.COM

[Carlo]

Humm
I guess Fabrizio was right, and while waiting for Bill answer, I can only say that my very first M9 has (well, better say "had", as it was soon replaced) a dummy pommell, that is quite different from yours.
See pictures here:
http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=723.
What I believe, based on the answers in that post, is that the dummy pommell I have is the same of the M9 Field Knife Japan I.

[cwmosshead]

With the poor fit of the pommel, I thought maybe someone replaced it after it left the Buck factory. But its apparent the knife has never been used. Also Carlo I noticed your knife has Pat. Pend. this one doesn't. Whatever that means.

[Carlo]

Originally Posted by cwmosshead

Also Carlo I noticed your knife has Pat. Pend. this one doesn't. Whatever that means.

It is because these two (commercial) bayonets were made in different years, yours in 1987 (">" mark), mine in 1989 ("V" mark), and the "Pat. Pend" mark was add later, after 1987.

[porterkids]

I hope you saved that pommel Carlo. It is the correct one for the Field Knife that Buck manufactured for sale in Japan. It's a hard to find piece.

The knife pictured in this link has a Lan-Cay EOD cross guard and pommel on it. If you look at the side view photo of the hilt you will see a gap between the grip and the pommel. There are two ears on the back end of the grip that are used to index the bayonet pommel. The directions that come with the EOD pommel instruct you to cut these ears off the grip. Fortunately the previous owner did not do that and you can restore the bayonet to its original configuration if you choose. The solid pommel that Buck made fits between the two ears.

[porterkids]

Originally Posted by Carlo

It is because these two (commercial) bayonets were made in different years, yours in 1987 (">" mark), mine in 1989 ("V" mark), and the "Pat. Pend" mark was add later, after 1987.

The Pat. Pend. was added in 1987. You can find both three-line and four-line Buck bayonets with the 1987 date code.

[cwmosshead]

Thanks for the info, I'll do just that.

[Carlo]

Originally Posted by porterkids

I hope you saved that pommel Carlo. It is the correct one for the Field Knife that Buck manufactured for sale in Japan. It's a hard to find piece.

Yes, I still have the dummy pommell.
I guess it is probably the same for all collectors, but being it my very first M9, this standard, commercial model, still has a "special" value for me.....

Originally Posted by cwmosshead

Thanks for the info, I'll do just that.

Try this ebay seller
http://stores.ebay.com/M9-Outfitters
It is a kind of supermarket of M9 parts

[Carlo]

Originally Posted by porterkids

The Pat. Pend. was added in 1987. You can find both three-line and four-line Buck bayonets with the 1987 date code.

My mistake
For those interested, I was looking at the Finn patent
http://www.m9bayonet.com/library/04821356.pdf
in a different topic and I found that:
Patent Filed: March 13 1987
Date of patent: April 18 1989
So anything between those two years, including 1987 and 1989, should be "patent pending".