Reduced Capacity Brass

[michael30.06]

Hi I am new to the forum so I spent a while with the search function but got no joy. I reload for my WWII bolt action rifles, and have played around from time to time with heavy 30 cal bullets at less than super sonic speed, around 900 to 1150 fps with 150 to 220gr lead bullets.
Initially my interest was to get my home brewed lead bullets to spin rather than strip through the rifling when I pushed them too fast.
I have heard that a US company produced reduced capacity brass for the 30.06 and the 308. But I cannot find any advertised on the web.
Does it still exist, or can I safely make my own cases by filling an empty case with lead then drilling out the center from mouth to primer pocket?
Any advice on finding this brass or creating my own, much appreciated.
The end product will be used at up to 150 yds on Chital deer and feral pigs pushing a 240gn Hp soft lead bullet.

[Fastshooter03]

I'm sure others will chime in but what is the twist rate on the WWII rifle?
Once you know that, you'll know your approximate max bullet weight for subsonic shooting.
I thought about CNC lathing up some 308 brass from solid a while back but since then I've gone with the 30-221 type and have been happy.
I've never heard of reduced capacity brass but I'm sure somebody more experienced knows for sure.


Nick

[michael30.06]

The twist on the WWII rifle I'm going to start with is 1 in 10 a Springfield 1903
think it's a 1933 production number. The max according to Maths is about 190gn but I have seen good results from an Enfield 303 with 265gn Hp, neat clean holes in paper at 100yds so apparently there is another factor involved other than twist imparted spin stability. LOTS to learn.

[michael30.06]

How about filling the 30.06 case with molten lead up to the shoulder then drilling out a shaft from primer to neck that has the same volume as a 221 fireball case? Would that be possible, I do not have a 221 case to measure but I'm sure the info is on the net some where.

[HUNTER2]

Liberty suppressor used to make machined, reduced cap. brass. They said it was not very cost effective. But have seen on U-TUBE of them shooting sub 308 with Trailboss. hope this helps...

[LouBoyd]

Originally Posted by michael30.06

How about filling the 30.06 case with molten lead up to the shoulder then drilling out a shaft from primer to neck that has the same volume as a 221 fireball case? Would that be possible, I do not have a 221 case to measure but I'm sure the info is on the net some where.

The volume of a 300-221 case I have (from the Quickload database) is 1.62 cm^3 (cc) which is 24.95 grains H2O. That's level with the case mouth.

I agree completly with the use of cast lead bullets for your application. Bore friction makes shooting jacketed or copper alloy solids very difficult at subsoinic velocities with a long barrel. In a bolt action you don't have to worry about fouling a gas port. Also cast lead bullets are much shorter than copper jacketed boattails of the same weight so you should be able to shoot flat base cast bullets over 200 grains with the 10" twist without stability problems.

[michael30.06]

So it's the length of the bullet that dictates how fast it needs to be spun in order to stabilize in the barrel. Now I can see where my assumption about 190gn being the heaviest bullet my 1 in 10 barrel was wrong. Thanks