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Old 12-27-2007, 11:37 PM
320pf 320pf is offline
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An idea on how to get better performance from sub-sonic bullets

An idea on how to get better performance from sub-sonic bullets...

I was thinking of a way to get sub-sonic bullets to perform better. So here it is...

Take a Sierra 200, 210, or 240 gr. bullet and score the shank approximately 2/3 of the way to the ogive with a tube cutter. It you score the bullet almost all the way through the jacket material, I suspect the the bullet will break up when/if it tumbles inside the target. This should significantly increase the preminant wound channel thereby incapacitating the target more effectively.

This will deform the bullets shank a bit by making it a bit larger than 0.308 in. immediately near the cut but sub-sonic loads are low pressure and firing the bullet down the bore will just swage the bullet back to the correct diameter. One drawback from this that I can think of is that you might quicken/increase the fouling of the barrel. I think that regular barrels cleaning should be able to remove this though?

All comments welcome.

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Old 01-08-2008, 03:56 PM
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If you make or have a HP (hollow point) and then do any any jacket cuts Vert. in length. It will expand for sure.
You need a Larger HP though than the factory gives.
Factory HP is designed for Hyper Vel. expansion not subsonic. You need to open-up the HP larger and the jacket scores will take over from there. much like your, HP personal defence Pistol ammo. Like the hydrashock or sabers.
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Old 01-08-2008, 07:37 PM
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SMKs perform quite well. The hollow tip collapses on impact causing the bullet to yaw and tumble. I've pulled several out of the soft mud over the past two weeks and the jackets were all torn with deformed, exposed lead with a total diameter around 5/8" (these were .30 240's) and about 1 1/8" long.

Unless you are shooting a very heavy bullet, you're not likely to dump a lot of energy into the target by expanding the bullet and still get an exit wound at sub velocities when shooting large game animals. You can blend your own lead alloy bullets to a very soft compound, cut swags into the side, a large hollow point, lube them and throw 'em a a sub velocity. It may deform enough to do what you are looking for but you've lost the high BC and probably decreased accuracy. With fast twist rates you also begin to risk deforming the bullet in flight as the centripital forces try to tear/deform the lead. I haven't done any research on where that limit resides, but I'm sure it could be calculated with shearing tests on whatever compound you came up with. If you define performance as taking large game and finding your kill, the SMKs will do fine. If you have an issue with your existing twist rate and the bullets you want to shoot, you'll either have to change barrels or shoot shorter pills. The Hornady 220 RNSPs are very stable in a 1/10 barrel and will take a deer (I've taken 8 over the years). None have gone more than 100 yards (just like a well placed bow kill) and all rounds exited the body cavity

Hunting with sub loads should be looked at like long range bow hunting, not traditional gun hunting until such time that the bullet technology comes around to the subsonic market.
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Old 01-09-2008, 06:43 PM
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How's about these 240 grn spitzers 9.8 grns 2400
8"ssk 300 whisper fired into dry magizines
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Old 01-09-2008, 07:03 PM
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:15 PM
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Those results are very similar to what I pulled out of soft mud at 100y with my 308/240 SMK load.
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