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Polish grenade launching Kbkg60 - a potential project of mine...
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http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...ld/kbkg_12.jpg
Here is a PDF Page from a website that had a very good overview of the Polish Kbkg wz. 1960 Grenade launching rifles. I saved it as a PDF as too many of the references I had posted have been removed and now some of that info has been lost :frown: See: http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...kg_wz_1960.pdf Note that the details below are out of date (as of 2010) but I lack full details to update all of this at this moment too! ------------------------------------------------------------------ WANT TO BUY.... Need for this Project Still Becuase this post is getting out of control I thought I would relist the last items I need for this project.... 1. Straps that hold the rubber boot to the Stock 2. Left side assembly for the gas block (plus hint on the proper detents and springs would be nice) 3. I will need parts to get 922(r) compliance On to the Project and Review I am still trying to learn how to build stamped AKs and my time is so limited but I have been adding a few misc parts to my parts bin and now I have two of the biggest parts that I need to make a grenade-launching Polish PMK (Kbkg60) clone... Here is an image of the Kbkg60 rifle: http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...ik_wz_1960.jpg From http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karabin...atnik_wz._1960 Here are some links with more info: Following reposted from: http://tantal.kalashnikov.guns.ru/parts4.html Quote:
Attached is a drawing of the left side of this rifle (shows the gas block) (Image attached in case original site deletes or removes it...) I originally purchased the gas block thinking that I might try a subsonic load or 300 Whisper AK where I need adjustable gas flow... see http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=517 Photo of gas block: http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...0_gasblock.jpg Update.. I was looking into these guns and parts and Buddy from http://www.sturmgewehr.com e-mailed me and indicated he had one of the Recoil Boots for sale... My lucky day so I grabbed it as soon as I got the e-mail: http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/parts.cgi?read=143643 http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...renadeBoot.jpg Quote:
I still need to find the following: 1. Grenade launcher muzzle device 2. Some type of milled kit for the build 3. Need to find or make the back side for the gas block (missing the retaining plate) and I really need a pic to help me make a replacement assuming I can't buy one. I just found a pretty good image that shows the boot as well as the grenade launcher attachment (POSTED AS A LINK AS IMAGE IS HUGE!) http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...renadeTube.jpg (Image above from From Buddy Hinton at sturmgewehr.com) |
Here are a few more places I went looking for more info:
http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/se...cgi?read=67315 http://ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=4&f=51&t=75647 More interesting leads and info: http://www.ak-47.net/ak47/global.html Quote:
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http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11377 Here is a post where they were for sale new... http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showth...=milled+polish Here is an exceptional photos of one: http://www.quarterbore.com/images/polish-wz60-full.jpg From: http://www.gunsnet.net/album/showpho...sort=1&cat=all |
Time to start tracking my costs...
Gas Block: $15 Stock: $45 Boot: $18 Grenade launcher Sight $20 Grenade Launcher Spigot $50 (Shipped) PMK bayonet $27 (Plus $12.50 Shipping) PMK Part Kit $150 (Shipped) Note... No Milled receiver yet so the price will jump... More updates... I found a guy with a used Grenade launcher sight that belongs to these kits and I have committed to buy that as well along with a bunch of "junk" parts that I wanted to use to build a cut-a-way trainer AKM. I will add pics of that sight when I get it but there are pics of other ones in this thread above... And I though the Para FAL project was getting to be an expensive project.... I need to sell some stuff now... |
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Another update... even though I have a full kit lined up I am still looking to add the pieces I need to make a clone as I am so close to having all the extras now...
In that context I just purchased one of the Grenade launcher sights that belongs to this rifle... I spent $40 for it but I am getting it with a few other peices I need for my cut-a-way project so I put the value of the sight at about $20. I still need two items for this second collection... 1. I need the grenade launcher itself that threads to the barrel. 2. I need the straps for the boot that hold the boot to the stock. Then I need to figure out what I can use to put these on :bangin: I also purchased a "practice grenade" or ten... I don't know if these are correct or not for the Polish rifle but I figure if they are close I can make a dummy grenade to put with the rifle...mine will not have the tennis ball or retention straps for the same... http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showth...68#post2242468 I uploaded a pic to make sure I don't lose the image if they get deleted from the other page... |
Following are some new pictures I got from KWB52 on Gunsnet.com:
From http://www.gunsnet.net/forums/showthread.php?t=255093 http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...0-launcher.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...kg60-sight.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...60-bayonet.jpg After the advise that the above bayonet was the correct type for this project... Quote:
http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...d/bayo-01a.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...d/bayo-01b.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...d/bayo-01c.jpg |
Looking for additional information....
If anybody happens to drop in here that has a receiver stub or even access to a real WZ 60 that can take a few good photos that show the receiver markings and post them I would really appreciate it. If that is not enough, I would also love scale tracings or a scan of the markings too if possible but I will take what ever you can provide... I know there are a couple other people looking for this same info so you would be helping more then just myself... Thanks! |
Well, my project continues on... I posted a WTB ad for the Grenade launcher and managed to find a seller in a couple hours. I know someone will post I was out of my mind and that these have sold for much less but I paid $50 for it and it's really nice...
http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...ade-spigot.jpg |
Life has been good to me today!!! I have been hawking the Classifeds boards looking for a milled kit for this project for a few weeks now and today I happend to drop in at AR15.com and found this baby for sale...
http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...pmkkit-01e.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...pmkkit-01d.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...pmkkit-01b.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...pmkkit-01a.jpg http://www.quarterbore.com/images/po...pmkkit-01c.jpg Quote:
Now I have a kit to build upon! |
My Second FULL PARTS KIT!!!
This was buriied in the posts above but in addition to all the parts I have collected above I do have a second complete and original wz 60 parts kit and a Bulgy receiver I am buying... I swapped e-mails with the guy and he confirmed it is still mine he is just busy and the kit is burried in storage... Here is a pic of part of the kit and the receiver he had from days past.. http://quarterbore.com/images/polish.jpg (Image is pretty large! -- This kit is supposed to have the backpack with all the rest of the goodies as well!) Time to start looking at the build legalities... 922(r) and a Milled kit Following is the list of 922(r) Import parts in a milled AK: (1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings or stampings (2) Barrels (3) Muzzle attachments (4) Bolts (5) Bolt carriers (6) Gas pistons (7) Triggers (8) Hammers (9) Disconnectors (10) Buttstocks (11) Pistol grips (12) Forearm handguards (13) Magazine body (14) Followers (15) Floorplates NOTE - The above is one less then a stamped receiver AKM as the milled kit does not have a front trunion! The five parts in GREEN above are the five parts I am planning to replace in this project. Receiver As for the receiver, the firing line milled receier looks to be the only game in town but it looks like a great game anyways... http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/firingline/page2.html http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/firingline/Prices.html |
That is one nice project you have going there. It will be a "one of a kind" when you get it finished.
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