I assume the above video is of a .458 SOCOM? If so, the noise level is probably acceptable, although some of the videos of the integral .44 mag are even quieter.

swampf0x

The automatic gain on the microphone distorts and amplifies silencers.

A 44 mag may sound quieter but will it give you the 200 yards range you are looking for?

I see no reason that it wouldn't give me 200yrds. If the trajectory chart says that "practically" any bullet launched at 1050fps has very close the same trajectory out to at least 200yrds....................I see no reason the 44mag (special) wouldn't do it.

Sure would be nice to have a suppressed SBR'd Bullpup in .458 SOCOM :D

swampf0x

When looking at videos remember the only way to compare two guns is to video them at the same time with the same recorder. It is still not the best judge of a setup, but will give you an idea. The second thing is that ARs are louder than bolt guns especially from the port side. You need a three position gas block or a gas cut off to compare a bolt gun to an AR. In the video he was comparing a suppressor he made in 458 to a factory suppressor in 223 with a 55 gr bullet. The first gun in reality sounds like a unsuppressed 22 LR HV. The 458 would not have a sonic crack. I know its hard to figure out what is best suited for you. That why most of us have multiple NFA toys. Most get a .22 LR and a 30 cal. After that things get weird. Do you know if there are any shooting ranges in you area that allows NFA? If so, see if you can listen first hand.

The SOCOM is using an approx 500 grain projectile over the 240 grain 44 Mag in a factory carbine for the similar velocity. The 300 grain loads are supersonic in the SOCOM.

The 458 Socom is not as quiet as the 44mag even with the best subsonic load and both in a single shot gun.

I like my Socom but my 44mag with 300 grn pills are my choice
for a real quiet hog and deer killer up to 200 yrds.

factory barrel or after-market with a faster twist for the 44 mag?

I'm using a 1:11 twist Douglas barrel so 240+ grn bullets fly
accurate in my 44mag.
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My AR 458
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Maybe I could get a Ruger 44mag carbine, have a custom aluminum bull pup stock made (I know of a guy) Put a faster twist barrel on it, SBR it if needed, and a 45 acp suppressor. How does that sound for a short easy to handle deer rifle out to a Maximum of 200yrds?

Most of my hunting will be from a small blind, so compactness is important to me. I hunt on my familys farm and there is a property boundry dispute between us and them. The land has been surveyed several times and they all match within a couple of inches. Our fence is inside that surveyed line by a few inches. I'm legal but there's always someone trying to start trouble. Anyways, I'd rather keep things quiet to avoid confrentations with the neighbors. I also need to drop the deer where he stands. God forbid if my deer ran across the fence. Then there would be lots of trouble started..................so, does a Ruger 44mag sound good to everyone? Does my plan sound solid? Or do I need the extra weight the 458 SOCOM offers? Which would be cheaper to build, buy the Ruger and start from scratch or modify my AR upper?

thanks,
swampf0x

You will get no argument from me about the .44 mag. It is vary capable. If you go that route, a .45 acp host would soon follow.:smile: Rebarreling your upper would be cheaper than setting up a new gun, but I would not let that stop me. Don't skimp on the suppressor. Get the best you can afford. You will be glad you did. Just don't shoot full power loads through that acp can and you will be good to go.