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Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:03 PM

300 Whisper Owners... Please sound off!
 
We are having a huge number of people that click here and move on without posting. Please take a second and post about your 300 Whisper (or clone), what you use it for, and your experiences with the round...

From the statistics I have running it looks like we have had about 1000 people come to this forum and we only have two posts...

Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MGP
MGP here i have a 300 whisper built on a left hand rem700 trued action 20 inch er shaw barrel and shoots great my hunting loads 2036fps shoot .711 5shots at 100 yards and my target loads 1591fps shoot .202 5shots at 100 yards bullets are hornady 150 interbond i will be hunting whitetail on thanks giving day ill let you know how it performed Thanks


Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by abyssdncr
Hey, great forum! (nice to know we've got a place to corral now... :D )

Last year about this time I put to gether a Model 1 sales kit on an Eagle lower. 16" CAR, A3 upper, Standard FSB, fluted and knurled FF tube, trapdoor A1 buttstock, Ergo grip, ARMS #38 SEX, Simmons Whitetail 4x EER shotgun scope, extractor D-ring, and Armforte adjustable gas tube. Rolling my own with Redding dies, H110 and Winchester .223 brass...

My intent was to build my ideal 0-200 yd. whitetail rifle. So far I've been very happy with everything but the ammo... I form from .223 brass, and originally bought a bunch of LC once fired. That stuff does not form well at all. I've since switch to commercial Winchester brass and am pleased with the results. Groups have consistently printed MOA + or - a gnat's ass. I really need to upgrade to some real optics, but for the money the little Simmons works well for deer season and makes for good go/no go field expedient rangefinder.

Cheers!
8-)


Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokchukrslave
I have a .300 Whisper built on a Winchester Stealth, with minimum legal length barrel, 8 twist, and a Bi-lock for my Gemtech TPR-S suppressor.
I struggled greatly with handloads using H110, but have seen much improvement since switching to Alliant 2400 and CCI small rifle MAGNUM primers. Most loads have been with a Sierra 240, but plan on experimenting with the 220 some more.
At least you can get the the 220 by the 100.
240's are only available by the 500. Think I payed $155 from www.okweber.com.
The Winchester action doesn't seem to like to eject spend casings reliably.
They jump off the the extractor and sit in the breech. When they do eject they don't go very far. Haven't messed too much looking for a cure as right now accuracy is my main intrest.


Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gt3499a
I have yet to post because I have not completed or shot the system. I have a 10" ar barrel on order from olympic for about 2 months now. Have a stainless jp adj gas block (did everyone have to tap their own blocks?)

I am going to try to have a shorter firsh handguard than the gas block, hard to do on a 6" pistol lengh possition. Going to put a bilock on 5/8x24 threads, 1/8 twist,

hope it works with my RLL!!! in fact I mean to make it work but wont be too disapointed if it takes a bit of fiddiling

bought some of the flat base 180gr remington core-lokts, works out to about 8cents , hope to have a loaded ammo at about 10c, Mr. Davis hooked me up on the brass

I will post some pictures and such once I get the rest of the parts

Dan 8-)


Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by georgel
I've been trying to build up an AR/300 Fireball with an older Olympic barrel for a couple of years now. I fell in love with the concept of the cartridge years ago. I think I finally have it together and meanwhile have been experimenting with reloading this round. Bought some Cor-Bon factory loads mostly as reference cartridges. Can't wait to go to the range to test.
That's my story.


Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rokchukrslave
Corbon loads only gave me 850fps out of my 16 1/2" barrel.
You really need a chrono if you plan to shoot subsonic loads accurately.
If you are just shooting supersonic for groups you don't really need one unless you want to run ballistic tables.


Quarterbore 12-13-2004 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Woodsman22
Hello Again,

I posted in the reloading section, and though its only been a few hours, I haven't seen any replies. I like the idea behind this forum and I hope it grows and becomes popular, but one of the reasons that it attracts people who don't post (I think) is because there may be a lot of people out there hunting for good reloading data on the cartridge, but there is not a whole lot of it here.
About guns: I have a Contender (bought it in 17 HMR caliber) with a 300 Whisper barrel, but haven't shot it yet because I've only just now started trying to load the caliber. The rifle has a very good trigger, and once I finally get some loads worked up for it, I'll post them here. BTW the Whisper barrel is a stainless TC barrel in 1:10 twist, so I am pretty much restricted to loads in the below-200 grain bullet area. This is OK because I really do not want to pay the outrageous price of the 240 grain Sierra bullets that are used for subsonic loads. I do have some Lapua Scenar 185 grain bullets that I am going to try working up loads for. I have seen some loads using this bullet on other websites so i will start there. Have a good day.

Woodsman22


300whisper_newbie 12-14-2004 02:36 AM

I get the first real/non quoted post on the new thread!!!

I just received my Model1sales 300-221 A.K.A. whisper 16" CAR, A2 flashhider, Free Float Handguards, A3 Flat-top upper, jard single stage 1.5# trigger.

From the old forum :
Quote:

I haven't really had a lot of time to play with it yet however I did get a chance to put 5 rounds through it at the local indoor range.

I was shooting 220 seirra's in 221 fireball cases with 9.0 gr h110. The spent cases ejected properly but it would not strip the next round from the magazine. I was only loading 2 at a time in a 20rd DMPS plastic mag but it always looked like the second round was being over-ridden by the carrier. Manualy cycling the charging handle loaded the round properly. I worked the charging handle a few times and it feels like the bolt-carrier is riding rather roughly in the upper. I'll sit in front of the TV and cycle the gun a few times to try to work it in a bit. I have a Model1Sales 6mm PPC varmint gun that used to fail to load untill I had let the carrier wear in and now it cycles flawlessly. I'm loading another 50 rounds with 9.1gr of h110 to see if that helps as well.

So far my impression of the rifle is very favorable. The recoil is non-existand. It sounds and feels like I'm shooting a 22lr until you see the size of the holes in the paper!
--Chris

usma89 12-17-2004 10:35 PM

I have two:
A custom 1:8 AR 16" platform w/AAC can
I am curently building a 1:6.5 twist 16" folding stock on a Savage action. Barrel is in, just need to get the action to Marty.

Jason280 12-20-2004 11:16 PM

1/8 AR gun here as well. Built on a DPMS lower, using M1S flat top upper.

usma89 12-26-2004 10:08 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...15parts037.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ogsleep016.jpg
my 308, but is the blueprint for my 1:6.5 whisper

K9 Handler 12-28-2004 05:29 PM

Hi;
First post. I'm intrigued by this round and it's family. I ordered a barrel from Fox Ridge (TC) for my Encore just today.
I'm looking for something quiet to hunt whitetail in my back fields. Each year they build more and more homes in the area. Not that what I do is illegal, but the noise of a full-boat .308 at 06:30 sends mothers of small children ballistic (so to speak!). I'd just like to avoid the hassle with any neighbors and/or the police.
I'd like to hear from folks who have hunted with this round loaded subsonic, and how effective it is in the real world.
Are folks happy with the Model 1 brand upper A3?
I have a Colt Sporter "Competition H-BAR", Ser. CH003xxx that was made about the time of the "Ban". It has a screw-on flash suppressor, but no bayonet lug. Can anybody tell me if this is a pre-ban or post-ban gun?
Thanks.

Ricasso 01-06-2005 01:30 PM

Hi all,
I'm shooting a Contender with a SSK 10" bull barrel (1:8 twist) primarily using subsonic loadings with Sierra 220 gr and 240 gr MatchKings. Brass is Rem 221 Fireball, primers are Federal, and dies are Hornady. I originally got into the 300 whisper for the sole purpose of using it to develop suppressors (I’m a part time gunsmith and Class II manufacturer). However it is such a pleasure to shoot and the accuracy is so impressive, I wish I would have bought it a long. Most of the loads I’m shooting were developed using Quick Load and, so far, the most accurate has been Vit 3N37 with a Sierra 220 gr MK at around 1000 FPS (this load yields a load density of around 61%). The extreme velocity spread for this load has been around 12-15 FPS and group size has been around 3/8” to 1/2” at 50 yards (I currently have an Aimpoint M2 1X with a 4 moa dot which hampers accuracy testing at much beyond 50 yards). Another powder that has tested well so far has been Alliant Herco with the same bullet (load density is around 81% and extreme spreads around 10-15 FPS).

I now have 300 Whisper reamers in house and the next project will be a suppressed version built on a Rem 700 SA platform. I’m glad to know there’s finally a place for the Whisper crowd to hang out.

usma89 01-28-2005 06:13 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...15parts079.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...15parts078.jpg

my latest project is almost done, just need to duracoat the barrel.
16.5" PacNor 1:7 twist 5 grove barrel done by Marty at Teppo Jutsu in 30/221
My SWR can. I also have been working with the 338 Specter, very cool, 338 subsonic in a AR platform.

G Man 02-10-2005 03:53 AM

WOW! A forum for the Whisper.

I have been shooting the 300 Whisper for over 10 years but never new about this forum till recently.

I have one of JD's early uppers (I think it's #6) and a Contender carbine bbl as well. Also have one of his early cans (my first NFA purchase) that fits both guns.

Mostly shoot the 220gr Sierra MKHP in Rem 221 FB brass with Rem 7½ primers and AA 2015, H110, AA #9 powders with very good results.

Played with the Nosler 125 gr Ballistic Tips with sub MOA accuracy.

Working up loads with the Sierra 220 RN now.

Lastest projest gun is a bolt action Rem 788 with Hart 1:8 bbl in a McMillan A2 stock that feed from an AR-15 20 rnd mag and fitted with Joe Gadinni's excellent SWR Omega can but am contemplating having a custom can built that uses 45 ACP baffle stacks but bored for 30 cal made of aluminum with either stainless or Inconel first baffle and stainless threaded rear cap.

Thanks for the great forum.....there is always so much more to learn and share and I'm sure I'll benefit from the experience.

usma89 02-11-2005 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G Man

Working up loads with the Sierra 220 RN now.

Lastest projest gun is a bolt action Rem 788 with Hart 1:8 bbl in a McMillan A2 stock that feed from an AR-15 20 rnd mag and fitted with Joe Gadinni's excellent SWR Omega can but am contemplating having a custom can built that uses 45 ACP baffle stacks but bored for 30 cal made of aluminum with either stainless or Inconel first baffle and stainless threaded rear cap.

.

Let me know if you get a good load for the 220RN, I have not been able to get a good group past 50m(in an AR and bolt gun platform) and have had issues with them feeding.
I have discusssed a lightweight can tuned for subsonics with SRT, using the Aztech baffle system. He has the specs ready to go. I am just waiting for my other cans to clear the ATF before I commit to another can.

jacack 02-25-2005 09:25 PM

my rifle
 
my rifle is as follows, remington SA trued and blueprinted,20inch lilja 8twist,hs thumbhole stock,hs magazine kit,nightforce bases and rings with a leupold MK4 4X14X50 M1 with the side focus and illuminated reticle.have a suppressor being made and just waiting for the ATF to give me the approval.So far I have shot it with factory corbon 220subs ans was very impressed with the way it shot.I did shoot some 125noslers with H110 and got some great groups and 2350fps,i am planning on working up a load with the 150nosler accubonds this week for a upcomming hog hunt. I have to say its one of the most fun rnds i have ever shot,its hard to not go through some serious ammo with it.

Jared in Va

Brian T 04-11-2005 09:36 PM

300 Whisper
 
I have an 18" SSK Carbine. I primarily shoot 125-130 grain jacketed bullets over 20 grains of 296. It is very accurate and easy to shoot. I have recently been playing around with some 200 grain cast sub sonic rounds, they are not MOA but stay inside of 2" at 50 so are fun to plink with and smack the steel plate with authority. I plan to shoot a feral hog with it week after next, 125 BT @ 2300 fps, should work out well.

lbarcher34 04-29-2005 08:10 PM

Ordered a 300whisper encore barrell today for my encore(I bought a frame today-No barrell in stock :( ) . I got an 18inch Fox Ridge barrell as that was a little easier on my budget than the ssk version. Wow cant wait till it gets here. I plan on shooting the factory Corbons till I can get set up to reload it. I sadly cant use a suppressor in my state for hunting which is what I want it for anyway. I will post when the barrell arrives to let every one know how it all works out.

H2H 05-01-2005 07:03 PM

Hi everybody,

working on my 300 whisper config, so far I have the A3 flat top and the 300 whipser barrel / suppressor. Just need to finish building it. BArrel is about 12.5" long. It was SS and I just refinished it in socom flat black from Norrell.
Planning on adding a LArue 9.0 rails and gas block, Vortex FH and Adjustable gas Tube.

Buckshot 05-03-2005 11:28 AM

Sig 551 SWAT
 
Hi guys, I have been on this forum for some little time now.
I currently have a Sig 551 SWAT under construction by my local gunsmith.
The .223 remington barrel is gonna be replaced with a nice 16" Lothar Walther barrel.
The gas port might need minor adjustment, but has the advantage to be set in two different modes.
Sig originaly made this, so a fouled weapon could be more reliable.
I am now gonna be using this system to switch between Supersonic and subsonic loads.
By the way, a Sig normally destroys the cases, so my case deflector is gonna be modified as well.
I might send in some pictures in the near future.

blastr1 05-05-2005 10:27 AM

My Whispers
 
Hey guys, I am new here, just found the forum recently. I got a couple 300's. The first one I bought is a 14 inch factory TC contender barrel. It has 300 Whisper marked on the barrel. I don't think they can mark them as 300 Whisper anymore. I got a die set with the barrel, RCBS, also marked 300 Whisper. It has a silver Bushnell Trophy 2x6 scope on it. It is probably the most accurate factory pistol barrel that I own. I have numerous groups in different bullet weights that are 3 and 5 shot groups at 100 yds that are less than an inch. This barrel loves Nosler BT's, 125's, 150's, 165's you name it. I have one 3 shot group with the 165's, and AA1680 that measures .770 at a distance of 175 yds.

The second barrel is a VVCG barrel. 16.5 inches long, 1 inch full bull, stepped back to fit the Contender frame, 1:8 inch twist. I have a Vari-x II 3x9x40 on it. I have not shot it that much, but I had bought a box of each of the bullet weights(125, 150, 220) Corbon offers and I tried them all in it, plus my handloads. It seems to like anything I put in it. Some do a little better than others, but they all shoot well from it. It will just pack the 220's on top of one another. Does anyone know what powder is in the Corbon 220's? I saved one to take apart, just haven't done it yet.

KillaB 05-06-2005 01:32 PM

Just left a post in the Ammo and Reloading section.
Link to Reloading post

Have been reading Quarterbore's info for a while and his site helped me make decisions on my first Thompson/Center caliber.
Shooting a T/C Contender with a 16.5" Custom Shop barrel (1 in 10" twist). Playing with some 200 grain Leadhead boreriders and H4227 around subsonic. Trying to find a supersonic hunting load for whitetail deer using H110.

dlt223 06-11-2005 10:06 PM

.300 Fireball Project. . .
 
7 Attachment(s)
Hello All,

Here are the details of my latest project.

.300 Fireball Barrel from John Noveske, PacNor SuperMatch SS blank,
16.5" 1:8 twist, Cooley Brake, J.P. Gas Block and Match Trigger,
Stag Arms Lower registered as Pistol, Rock River Arms Carrier Assembly,
Fulton Armory New pattern USGI Upper, Olympic FIRSH Handguard,
ACE M4 SOCOM Buttstock, Aimpoint CompM2-2X 2MOA Dot,
Wilderness Single Point Sling, Swiss Vertical Grip, Falcon Sure-Grip Ergo-Grip.
Both Colt and Bushmaster Mags with Magpull Tan Anti-Tip Followers.

View Image using this Link. Only 27K.

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/at...entid=43&stc=1

Any Questions? Bye Dave

Murmur 06-29-2005 04:58 AM

300 Whisper / 300 fireball / 300 Murmur
 
Hey there,
I just purchased a dinky stainless / synthetic T/C contender carbine carbine with a Virgin Valley 1-8' 300/221 & lightweight suppressor. The previous owner was using 240gr MK sierra's with good results so I'm having a Leupold 2.5-8x36 VX3 scope fitted with a custom dot reticle to give me hold points out to 300yards. I haven't shot the little carbine yet but the previous owner was getting 1" 5 shot groups at 200 yards. Should be just the ticket for the spooky feral goats out my way. I'm not worried about the 240gr MK terminal performance.....head & neck shots will make for a very dead goat even without expansion or tumbling. I'll keep you posted once I've received the rifle & scope back from my Smith.

dlt223 07-10-2005 06:09 PM

Whisper Loads. . .
 
Hello All,
Since my last post have made two range trips to test various Loads, all using the 220 Sierra.

Ended up with Two SubSonic Loads. One using H110 and the other using H335.
So far the H335 load seems the most promising.

When setting the JP Gas Block, ended up with 6 turns out for the H335 load.
This cycles reliably with a velocity of just about 1040 fps.
(Yes, I tapped the Block myself. Some Very Nervous Moments. SS Block.)

The H110 load is softer, quieter and will not reliably cycle the action with the current Gas Block setting.

Any news about Whisper Brass from StarLIne?

TTFN, Dave

GMHA375 07-12-2005 07:54 PM

I just recieved a SSK 300 whisper M4 upper and suppressor last month. I decided to pay the extra money and get theirs for multiple reasons. One, they started it all and I'd like to support that. Two, I've met JD and he was very nice and helpfull. (It's taken me over 10 years to finally decide to actuallty do it.) Third, with these kind of projects there are always problems and I wanted someone I could trust to send it back to.

I ordered 500 rds of corbon 220 subsonic with the upper and suppressor. I've only fired 40 rds but they functioned perfect. I'm waiting to recieve a rail system that I will modify to fit, and then I need to scope it. I'll start with an ACOG but plan on a hourus vision scope.

Whisper in your ear 07-26-2005 05:10 PM

freshly built and unfired:
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...er/whisper.jpg
Here is a quick writeup on it as well:
http://www.geocities.com/underwatersniper/whisper.html

ranger dave 12-25-2005 04:45 AM

300 whisper all the way
 
i fired a socom 300 whisper overseas and loved it so much i made one for myself i shoot a 147 fmj with 8g of 2400 i can make head shoots at 200 yards scoot a whisper you will never own a 9mm ar

Nick-S 01-10-2006 05:59 PM

Not quite...
 
Waiting on the arrival of PacNor blanks to start our own batch of 3 (so far) UK spec rifles. Reamers, dies and gauges have already arrived. They'll be standard (ish) ARs - but no gas in the UK. Side charging 'bolt' action all the way here... On the plus side, short barrels and suppressors are no problem...

Nick

Ameetec upper, Pac-Nor 12" barrel:
http://www.ukshooting.com/images/whisper2.jpg

d-mon 01-10-2006 06:55 PM

I am working on mine at the moment. I just decided to go for a Border barrel.
I will be a bolt action rifle.
I will post pictures when finished.

ND

Hardegg 02-05-2006 05:39 PM

I have an AR15
 
My first post.
I have an AR15 the upper was made by Randall at AR15barrels.com.
I assembled the lower from a rock river reciever. Using a Bushmaster 2stage match trigger.
The supressor is made by "Jet"
16" Barrel with adjustable gas bloc. shoots sub 1" MOA without a problem

blackwinch 02-05-2006 11:39 PM

CZ 527 conversion
 
My CZ 527 conversion is underway... When everything is done I'll be sure to post photos and disclose the gunsmith... I pretty excited to have the man that I got to do the work to say the least! The best part is he is really looking forward to doing the work for me. There is nothing better than knowing the guy who is doing the work is taking a genuine interest in the work.
Going with 16" barrel 1/8 twist and trying to make it look pretty also.
I trust all will be good.

prebancolt 02-06-2006 02:22 AM

Just finished and test fired my Olympic barrel assembly on a RRA lower. Is it unusual to find Olys with the gas block in the pistol location? Mine is there and unmodified it cycles fine with subsonic and supersonic loads.

Sub loads are: 220g Sierra, modified 221 brass, 8.6g H110 powder, Rem 7 1/2 primers.

Super loads are: 110g ? HPs, modified 221 brass, 19.0g H110 powder, Rem 7 1/2 primers.

I was more than willing to fiddle with my new toy if it didn't work, but it has been working fine with both loads.

J

caithness77 02-21-2006 08:37 AM

G'day from Australia,
I am currently load testing a 300 Whisper for a friend. It's a MAB (Australia) single shot bolt action. 30" Heavy S/S MAB barrel, 1/8 Twist. Big gun! Only just started loads last week. Way too sub sonic! Dont need a supressor when your making less noise than a .22. Getting consistant results is a whole different issue.
Also been testing a Jongmans single shot bolt action with a 15" S/S, 1/8 twist barrel. Have a 155grn Hornady A-Max load at super sonic getting 1/4 to 1/2" groups. 220grn Sierra HPBT Match getting 1/2" but just over sub sonic. Have tried 240grn pills but can't get stabilization at 100 yards. Boy do those have some torque!
Would be great to hear from some of you guys that hunt with this caliber and if anyone has any advise on this cal with long barrels.

Cheers,
caithness77

GunGeek 02-23-2006 03:22 PM

New Toy
 
OK so I just recently got my Mod1Sales barrel to start a 300Whisper AR project. I've gt a DPMS highrise upper and handguard. Mounting a Leupold 3.5-10 VariX-III on it. Picked up the rest of the small parts from Brownells and am going to put this upper on my tack driving .223 lower. Being an engineer married to a scientist, this is an experiment not just purchase another gun to shoot. Look for more posts in the Ammo section in the future as I play with load development.

ranger dave 03-16-2006 12:35 AM

socom 300 whisper
 
while in the army got to use a 300 whisper while over seas . no other round or rifle combo could beat it. head shoots at 200 meters with ease thank you mr jones !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Huckleberry 03-19-2006 03:40 PM

ready set GO GO GO
 
Howdy Pard's
I guess it's time for me to say hello
I'm Huckleberry, I live on the far side........ of the pond :smile: in Norway.
My whisper story started atleast 2 years ago when I got hold of a one 300 whisper brass, it has been sitting on my desk and said nothing untill this winter. After reading all I could find about this little but, Oh so cool, cartridge I got hooked. I started out with a Redding Die set and some new 223 brass, cut and formed them, then put some dummys together. Then a barrel, a reamer + a good friend with a lathe, the last item I bought was a Rem 700.Guess I have most of the parts that I need for this prodject, oh yeah I gonna make a full length silencer as well, I hope it's done in a couple of weeks, will let you know then, if my tinkering is working or not.
Thanks to you all that has given "me" their story and pictures in this forum
it helps a lot when you are shopping for ideas.

Thanks for your time
Huck

nixer 04-10-2006 01:22 PM

ar-15 pistol: 11.5" barrel built by randall 1/8 twist hbar stainless pistol length gas w/ jp turned down adjustible manifold

no can
used for deer hunting


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