Usmc- M9 <1993>

[M9A1]

000000000000000000

[Mister Moon]

Nice UNIT.....

[Mister Moon]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6981/usmc3033.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/72/usmc3033.jpg/)

[Mister Moon]

Can you put a photo with the TANG :grin:

[porterkids]

I knew it was only a matter of time before someone started to copy this bayonet. With the photos and information posted here it makes it easy for dishonest people to make copies. Next they'll be trying to sell them to unsuspecting collectors.

[Oldsmithy]

Its a good job they tarted this one up, makes it slightly more obvious :mad:

[M9A1]

This bayonet is 100% original ,Why to say it is "COPY"??

[Mister Moon]

Can you put a photo with the TANG ??

:grin:

[Oldsmithy]

This bayonet is 100% original ,Why to say it is "COPY"??

The scabbard makes me suspicious of the whole thing, the marine crest would get in the way of the blade when it is in the scabbard, the USMC badge is spurious, and the webbing looks all wrong. But if Bill says its a copy, I will not argue with him, and we ahve seen very good copies on here before typically given away by fine details

[porterkids]

I'm questioning the blade tang that Mr. Moon pointed out in his first post. I haven't had a chance to pull one of mine out yet to compare to the photo. As Mr. Moon requested, it would be good to see a full length photo of the blade.

[M9A1]

Sir,
This is FULL TANG(2nd Model) and It is new(very mint).

[Mister Moon]

Sir,
This is FULL TANG(2nd Model) and It is new(very mint).

我想要海(湖景)一个整体的照片不1993年的行为模式。 感谢您

[pwcosol]

M9A1: In your first picture showing the M9 blade marking, in upper-right side of photo appears "+" in shaded color. "Mr Moon" is asking with his reply post and "---->" marking what is shaded "+"? Sometimes such is used to hide details by obscuring photo. "Mr. Moon" asks for photos of entire blade and tang (both sides) as does Bill Porter. This was not provided so suspicion of bayonet originality exists. Addition of USMC EGA emblem only adds to this question. From what I see, (which is not same as actually having bayonet in hand), bayonet and scabbard look OK. If someone has right material, access to sophisticated industrial tooling, and expertise, perhaps they could make such a forgery. IMHO expense to do this would be prohibitive, and soon advanced collectors would note small detail differences exposing forgeries from original BUCK manufacture. Perhaps if you can comply with request from Moon & Porter, this will resolve issue.

[porterkids]

IMHO expense to do this would be prohibitive.


Current Chinese M9 bayonets wholesale at under $20. I bet that it would be under $100 to make one of these in China.

[Mister Moon]

From Mister Lu :

My knife all is original true, It has some words on blade, so I covered it (shaded "+"),

I don't want to announce these words .This does not affect this bayonet's authenticity


From Mister Mo :

He is wrong... it does effect how we see a believe his story...

[pwcosol]

what is shaded "+"?
These are some words on the blade, I don't want to announce these words . so I covered it (shaded "+").But ,This behavior does not affect this bayonet's authenticity.
http://http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1213&stc=1&d=1325181457

M9A1: Thank you for stating what is obscured by "shaded +" on tang. To my knowledge 1993 BUCK USMC trials bayonets should have nothing there. Perhaps Bill Porter can verify this (although rivet tang variation cannot be disassembled for inspection). As mentioned in my previous post, the purposely obscured area on the tang leads several members of the Forum to question the originality of the pictured example. However, your response (quoted above) does not provide any reassurances, but rather to the contrary, appears even more evasive, and only increases suspicion about your M9! Unless you are willing to satisfy the members of this Forum and reveal all, I would not expect your bayonet to be accepted as authentic.

[porterkids]

This bayonet is under $100？？？
Are you know China? You are too interesting .

Yes, maybe I am interesting. If that is meant as an insult I suggest you choose your words more carefully.

I have been in touch with more than one manufacturer in China (Taiwan) concerning manufacture of bayonets. I know that the current M9 bayonet copies being sold in the US wholesale for $18.67. Labor cost is a fraction of here in the US. Custom made pieces can be made very inexpensively.

As stated by others, it seems that you have something to hide. That makes everyone suspicious.

[Mister Moon]

Yes guys. Our friend M9A1 is right.
I know the seller.

Bravo Mister Lu.
Nice strike.

[Mister Moon]

M. Lu photos :

http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9215/mlubayousmc1993.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/710/mlubayousmc1993.jpg/)

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7648/mlubayo3usmc1993.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/339/mlubayo3usmc1993.jpg/)

http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9381/mlubayo2usmc1993.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/810/mlubayo2usmc1993.jpg/)

[ColinG]

ditto!

CG

[pwcosol]

Well, seems a lesson was learned here. If one is going to post a collectible on a website like Quarterbore, they should be prepared to accept commentary, both positive or negative and possibly defend their viewpoint with the best evidence possible. I can understand M9A1 not wanting to reveal a certain feature on the bayonet in question. Anything posted on the internet enters the public domain, and perhaps he did not want to compromise his source. Had the obscured signature not been included in the original photograph to begin with, the resultant, heated discussions might not have taken place. Mr. Lu has acquired a fine (and somewhat unique) example, and I appreciate him sharing this with the collectors on this Forum.

[porterkids]

I have confirmed the authenticity from the person who sold the bayonet to M9A1. It would have been so much nicer and would have caused less heartache if information was initially provided.

Nice bayonet.

[porterkids]

M9A1,

Can you please post full length pictures of both sides of the blade? Thank you.

[Mister Moon]

USMC 1993 for sale on EBAY here : http://www.ebay.com/itm/1993-Buck-USMC-M9-bayonet-Full-Tang-very-rare-prototype-knife-/231042394898?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35cb332b12

[sha-ul]

Any takers?:grin: