What yall shootn deer with?

[sgms18]

Gun season is just around the corner here in SC and my whisper is ready for its 1st trip to the stand. I have had good accuracy with 220gr Serria pro hunters and 180gr Speer soft points. I see alot about Outlaw bullets here. Any recomendations from you whisper deer hunters? I HATE TRACKING DEER! the 30-06 drops em like a rock(most of the time) but im guna try a lil sumthin different this year. O yeah, Im shootn subs, suppressed in an AR, 7in bbl. Thanks yall and good luck in the woods this yr!

[martineta]

I shoot outlaws in 225 grain pushed with 8.5 grains of Vit N110. I am shooting out of a 26 inch barrel encore. I recently bought a 10 inch MGM barrel but its in VA and I am still in Uruguay. I get home in 3 weeks and will see what the Chrony says coming out the short barrel. The deer I have shot thru the heart make it two three steps and die. Double lung shots have been running less than 50 yards, laying down and bleeding out so long as you don't chase them. I treat run offs like shot with a bow. They don't go far and die quickly. Plenty of blood to trail. Unfortunately I have never recovered a bullet. I can say the lungs look like strained jellow after the outlaws go through. All my shots have resulted in pass throughs. Two head shots as I just can't help myself when deer stand still at 25 yards, They just fall over dead.

[sgms18]

I use the VVN110 in my AR. runs good with the can. 9gr w a 220 pro hunter bout 970 fps. Kinda loud, so is 1680 i think that was 8.5gr w/the 180 Speer. Probally action noise, but they shoot good on paper.

[N310toN170]

Hornady 220 round nose

[Alleycat]

This
http://i830.photobucket.com/albums/zz229/alleycat72_bucket/Test3-19-11025.jpg

[sgms18]

I just emaild outlaw bout 100, 240gr

[HUNTER2]

Right now there is 4 bullets that I am aware of that will work - not tumble - on deer, Clearwater Custom make 220 and 240 gr. soft nose, Diamondback makes a 220, Lehigh makes an all brass segmented nose with a 17 gr Berger payload up front ( u provide ), and Outlaw. Have seen deer killed with the first 3. All four will get the job done. None are cheap! But just for hunting, worth every penny.....

[dick]

You get what you pay for with an OUTLAW. Weight=Energy and plenty of penatration not to mention features. All the others are just a weak :frown: attempt at making a subsonic hunting bullet.

[HUNTER2]

Very strong statement! How many deer have you taken with the other 3? Seen? Witnessed? Just because they are different or you are partial to one does not make the others crap. No, they don't all work in ar's. But all are well constructed bullets that do work at sub velocities in bolt and single shots. Now Remington is supposed to be making one for subs in loaded ammo. Now we have a choice, since not all guns like the same bullets.

[dick]

I haven't used any of the others yet, as long as I can get the Outlaws. I was just pointing out, that if your spending money on costum bullets that cost around a dollar, why not get the one that............Or you could just load a soft point boat tail backwards and hope for the best. Good luck with the others. I doubt Remington will be making that bullet. My bet is Hornady will.

[Idge]

Home made HP's, from factory Remington 300 blakout 220 grain OTM's. The bigger HP is 210 grains. The smaller HP is 216 grains, The second pic is the 210's over uncut 220 OTM's. Shoot for the neck. If you miss they live, if you hit they drop. I've been managing my herd like that for years.
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/Idge0/hpblackout.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/Idge0/1023011214.jpg

[gds]

I am using a protype bullet. My daughter took this the other day
http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8380

1st deer taken with the bullet

I am using a 200gr of the same bullet going 935fps

[gds]

Sorry for the lousy pics
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/reloading%20stuff/300blackoutLVE009jpg.jpg

On left is a 180 gr shot into water jugs, penetrating 5 jugs going 1475 fps

Center is loaded round

On right is a 200gr shot into water penetrating into 5th jug going 935 fps
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/reloading%20stuff/300blackoutLVE011jpg.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j243/gdsjr/reloading%20stuff/300blackoutLVE006jpg.jpg

[rumlover]

240's always worked well in my 308. I think I shot 4 or 5 and the standard exit wound looked like a knife wound (sometimes shaped like the bullet outline undeformed). 220 hornady RN would exit with a ragged hole about twice the diameter of the bullet--shot 6 or so with that round. I've only tagged one with the 300W using 220 SMKs, it passed through the chest cavity like the 240's.

I'd like to try the Outlaw bullets, but I haven't brought myself to pay that much for pills. They're as expensive as my 50cal pills and I haven't gotten over the sticker shock yet.

How did you guys modify the SMK's above? Drill, sander, file? Was it a pain in the ass to get the weights consistent?

[gds]

mine are not SMKs, they are a prototype bullet made by a friend, designed specifically to expand at slower velocities. same concept as the outlaw bullets but a different design

[sgms18]

I went w/the 240 Outlaw and am very happy. See my other post,http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=8308

Yeah they are a little over priced but they leave a nice exit wound

[Hoser]

125 Nosler Ballistic Tips.

[rumlover]

125s at subsonic velocities? I've got some hornady110 vmax loaded over a full case of trail boss, but I haven't tested them on a critter yet.

[Hoser]

125s at subsonic velocities? I've got some hornady110 vmax loaded over a full case of trail boss, but I haven't tested them on a critter yet.

Nope. Supersonic for Deer and Antelope. Subs on plains Deer would be a treat as getting within 150 yards is a huge challenge.

[sgms18]

Personaly I don't see the point of super sonic Whisper loads. I built mine to be quiet, if I wana make noise I use the 30-06. Not knockn any of you guys that shoot the light fast bullets I just like the heavy slow ones. What I really like is shootn a deer and havin another one walk up 10min later.

[sgms18]

Nope. Supersonic for Deer and Antelope. Subs on plains Deer would be a treat as getting within 150 yards is a huge challenge.

Hell its the exact opposite around here, unless you hunt feilds or power lines you won't get a shot more than 30-40yd. I shot one 2yr ago at about 15ft. Hell there could be a whole herd of deer 100yds away and you would never know it.

[gds]

I have only killed 5 deer. my first 3 were with .308 winchester. My last 2 with subsonic .300 blackout, loaded with 178gr amax at 935 fps. Then the one my daughter took with the .300 blackout. I cannot legally hunt with a suppressor in NC, but the main reason I use the subsonic is none of the shots i have taken a have been more than 50 yds. Another reason is just because I want to prove that it can be done, that it is more about shot placement than anything else. Even without the suppressor it is not that loud. Unless I am hunting a place where I can get a shot more than 200yds I will be shooting subsonic using either my buddies low velocity expanders. or a 200gr or heavier lead or jacketed bullet.

Since I have currently 2 .300 blackout uppers someone will get to use one shooting super sonic, either the same one my daughter did or a 155gr cast bullet going 2000fps. By next year I hope to have a 9 to 10 1/2 inch .300 blkout barrel for my sbr.

Had a buddy last year kill 3 on the last day of the season in less than 15 minutes with a .30-06

[Idge]

240's always worked well in my 308. I think I shot 4 or 5 and the standard exit wound looked like a knife wound (sometimes shaped like the bullet outline undeformed). 220 hornady RN would exit with a ragged hole about twice the diameter of the bullet--shot 6 or so with that round. I've only tagged one with the 300W using 220 SMKs, it passed through the chest cavity like the 240's.

I'd like to try the Outlaw bullets, but I haven't brought myself to pay that much for pills. They're as expensive as my 50cal pills and I haven't gotten over the sticker shock yet.

How did you guys modify the SMK's above? Drill, sander, file? Was it a pain in the ass to get the weights consistent?

It is easy. A few minutes. Dremmel with the little carbide cutting wheel. Cut the tip off. (like butter) Then use a small drill bit, then a little bigger drill bit if you want it a little bigger HP. Hand file and polish. The only setback is they don't feed consistent enough in my AR. So I hand feed it and the clip is stacked with stock OTM's. The first shot is all you need. If not. Stick him with a pointy one, on a follow up.

[fasttwist]

For as much money that you would have in time and material, you could have the real thing.

[i8asquirrel]

I popped a nice forked horn with 90 gr Hornady XTP over 9.8 gr of trailboss.
The load is supper quite from my Bolt gun. (sounds like a BB gun through my can) 30yd DRT kill..............bullet preformed great!
:grin:

[snipecatcher]

I popped a nice forked horn with 90 gr Hornady XTP over 9.8 gr of trailboss.
The load is supper quite from my Bolt gun. (sounds like a BB gun through my can) 30yd DRT kill..............bullet preformed great!
:grin:

Wow, I wouldn't have even attempted to shoot a deer with a 90 XTP. Glad to know it worked. Did it explode halfway through the chest or did you make a headshot? What kind of velocity are you getting with that load?

[rumlover]

90 grain TSX with trailboss...I bet that's beyond movie quiet. You've got to share some info on performance, especialy if it was a shot to the chest cavity. Congrats

[Alleycat]

I popped a nice forked horn with 90 gr Hornady XTP over 9.8 gr of trailboss.
The load is supper quite from my Bolt gun. (sounds like a BB gun through my can) 30yd DRT kill..............bullet preformed great!
:grin:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/352263/hornady-critical-defense-ammunition-380-acp-90-grain-flex-tip-expanding-box-of-25

To put it into perspective, this is what you killed a deer with. Damn! Everything I read says my 25-20 is not a hunting cartridge, but is shoots a 75 gr bullet at a little over 2000 fps. It puts quarter size holes in coyotes @ 100 yds. I may have to get it out. I say good job. Shot placement would have to be critical and you must have that down.
http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq348/4thHorseman/GIFS/clapping.gif

[Alleycat]

I popped a nice forked horn with 90 gr Hornady XTP over 9.8 gr of trailboss.
The load is super quiet from my Bolt gun. (sounds like a BB gun through my can) 30yd DRT kill..............bullet preformed great!
:grin:

Did you recover the bullet?
Where did you shoot the deer?
Where are the pics?

[i8asquirrel]

shot the deer from about 35 yds he had his head down feeding. I caught him just to the right of the spine through the chest he was front on to me..I could not recove the bullet but the lungs where destoyed... I decided to try the XTP bullt becuase Hornady is loading it in deffensive ammo extreme termenal preformance is thier claim. I could not get picture...didn't have phone with me...but I can tell ya I will be working with this load more. I dont have a chrono graph but at 3000' elevation and about30 degrees there is no sonic crack! Hope the info is usefull...

[i8asquirrel]

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/352263/hornady-critical-defense-ammunition-380-acp-90-grain-flex-tip-expanding-box-of-25

To put it into perspective, this is what you killed a deer with. Damn! Everything I read says my 25-20 is not a hunting cartridge, but is shoots a 75 gr bullet at a little over 2000 fps. It puts quarter size holes in coyotes @ 100 yds. I may have to get it out. I say good job. Shot placement would have to be critical and you must have that down.
http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq348/4thHorseman/GIFS/clapping.gif

I dont know about 25/20 but I have always thought a deer cartridge was what ever you could shoot accurately with a good bullet was a deer roud ( we used to butcher beef with a .22lr Hp behind the ear.....shot placement and bullets are what kills....

[Idge]

Well I got this...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/Idge0/1007010805.jpg
With this M1S 300 Fireball...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/Idge0/P5310116.jpg
With the smaller of the two hollow points...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a125/Idge0/hpblackout.jpg
He ran 10 yards. I couldn't tell it was hit with anything.(I looked for a wound, but didn't look hard enough I guess) For all I know he could have ran into a tree and broke his neck. It was broke. But that is where I was aiming Mid neck, 85 yards. I always aim at the neck if I can. Even with my cross bow.

[sgms18]

damn nice buck man! I shot 1 last week, hit rib bone on both sides and stoped in the sholder. No exit wound and no blood trail at all. All the others were thru and thru and bled like crazy.

[vlad]

I live in an area that I can only use shotguns or pistols. Cans are not allowed at all in MN:eek: That being said, I am using 125 Ballistic Tips out of a 12.5 barrel from J Fettig. Last year was my first hunting with it. I harvested this fawn at 25 yards. Broke the leading shoulder, 3" hole in the ribcage, bottom 2/3 of the heart was gone. Some fragments penetrated to the other side and that is what you see here.

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1186&stc=1&d=1322595743

This year I was very confident in my abilities to hit what I was aiming at. I am in an intensive harvest area and I harvested 7:grin: All the adult deer were shot in the chest with very dramatic results. Fauns were head or neck shot with immediate results. This is my buck from this year.

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=1187&stc=1&d=1322595743

I know you are looking for big bullets going slow but little bullets cooking along do very well also...