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03-24-2005, 05:24 AM
redshanks
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: Difference in blades from maker to maker?
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I have a Lan-Cay M-11 EOD knife and the commercial version of the Buck M9 bayonet and there are striking differences between the 2 different blades. Has anyone detailed the manufacturing changes as this knife evolved? For instance, the Buck blade is hollow ground and has a blood groove; the Lan-Cay is flat ground and does not have a blood groove.
Did changes in the contract specs cause these variations or are they the result of a different manufacturer and manufacturing process? Was cost the driving force or was it evolutionary based upon actual experience with the knife in the field?
Does the new Ontario version of the M9 follow the style of the Lan-Cay?
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Quarterbore
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Joined: 18 Jan 2005
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Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
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This is again beyond my own knowledge but remember that LanCay started making M9s to the same specifications as the Buck - Phrobis M9s. As time went on they had the specifications modified to allow the Bayonet to change....
Now, if anybody knows where to find the various specifications for the M9 and details on how these specs have changed I would appreciate it if you could help me find the info and I will add it to the website...
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redshanks
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 11
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:
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QB, I'm not a knife expert and know even less about the M9, but in my experience, a flat ground blade, as found on the recent Lan-Cay manufactured knife, makes a stronger blade more suited to prying. Could this also be the reason for the elimination of the blood groove?
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redshanks
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 11
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:
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I should have added that as knives go, I have always liked a Bowie style blade. Perhaps that's what attracted me to the M9. As a utility knife, the M9 is not very useful. The handle design is too awkward to make it comfortable to use in the hand.
However, it was intended to be a military bayonet, and as such, it has a cachet about it that all of my other similar knives lack. In my opinion, the Buck version of this knife is far superior to the Lan-Cay. In the future, I hope to acquire other examples by other makers.
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Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 11
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:00 am Post subject: Difference in blades from maker to maker?
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I have a Lan-Cay M-11 EOD knife and the commercial version of the Buck M9 bayonet and there are striking differences between the 2 different blades. Has anyone detailed the manufacturing changes as this knife evolved? For instance, the Buck blade is hollow ground and has a blood groove; the Lan-Cay is flat ground and does not have a blood groove.
Did changes in the contract specs cause these variations or are they the result of a different manufacturer and manufacturing process? Was cost the driving force or was it evolutionary based upon actual experience with the knife in the field?
Does the new Ontario version of the M9 follow the style of the Lan-Cay?
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Quarterbore
Site Admin
Joined: 18 Jan 2005
Posts: 95
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:13 am Post subject:
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This is again beyond my own knowledge but remember that LanCay started making M9s to the same specifications as the Buck - Phrobis M9s. As time went on they had the specifications modified to allow the Bayonet to change....
Now, if anybody knows where to find the various specifications for the M9 and details on how these specs have changed I would appreciate it if you could help me find the info and I will add it to the website...
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redshanks
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 11
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:48 am Post subject:
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QB, I'm not a knife expert and know even less about the M9, but in my experience, a flat ground blade, as found on the recent Lan-Cay manufactured knife, makes a stronger blade more suited to prying. Could this also be the reason for the elimination of the blood groove?
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redshanks
Joined: 04 Mar 2005
Posts: 11
Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:06 am Post subject:
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I should have added that as knives go, I have always liked a Bowie style blade. Perhaps that's what attracted me to the M9. As a utility knife, the M9 is not very useful. The handle design is too awkward to make it comfortable to use in the hand.
However, it was intended to be a military bayonet, and as such, it has a cachet about it that all of my other similar knives lack. In my opinion, the Buck version of this knife is far superior to the Lan-Cay. In the future, I hope to acquire other examples by other makers.
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