Wow. Phrobis, lancay, buck, ontario?

[lawman0210]

Just recently wanted to add an m9 to my Ar and was amazed of the variations. There are so many variations of the M9 and the scabbard my head is swimming. I spent 3 hours reading all the topics and am still baffled as the one to buy. I want a sturdy mutli-purpose weapon to use as if need in a survival scenerio. I won't be in combat anytime soon but with the way things are that could change in an instant. Whats your opinion? Stainless, bead blasted or black finish? Exended length scabbard? With or without wire cutter stop? With or without sharpening stop? With or without pouch? Seems there is pros and cons for both. I want to buy one soon and really have no idea as to which one to even look for. BTW I have a bushmaster XM15 with a Spike's 16" M4 with M73 Surefire Handguard, magpul Ctr stock, acog TA31Doc.
Regards,
Ken

[Carlo]

Hello and welcome!
I would suggest you to look for a Phrobis M9.
This is absolutely the best quality you can get for both the bayonet and scabbard.
Take a look at ebay, as there are many auctions for genuine army surplus Phrobis M9s in almost mint condition for affordable prices.

[porterkids]

If I'm not mistaken, you'll have a problem with mounting an M9 or M7 on the 16" M4. The bayonet lug to flash hider length is too long and the muzzle ring on the bayonet will be flopping around on the barrel behind the flash hider.

[Mister Moon]

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=166721

[lawman0210]

If I'm not mistaken, you'll have a problem with mounting an M9 or M7 on the 16" M4. The bayonet lug to flash hider length is too long and the muzzle ring on the bayonet will be flopping around on the barrel behind the flash hider.

You are correct. I just picked up a 1987 phrobis/buck 188> today. From the tip of the muzzle to the bayonet lug it is 8 inches. This leaves three inches of blade under my barrel. Why do m4's have. Bayonet lug if it doesn't match up? Is there a fix for this other then buying a 20" barrel? Is there a boot on ring adapter to mount on my barrel to take up the slack. If not I may have a spike's tactical and a bushmaster xm15 1/9 twist for sale. The scabbard is a phrobis (marked with a dolphin) just under the sharpening stone. It did not have a pouch and it has a yellow warning printed on the scabbard warning about the cutting line. Is this the correct scabbard? Lastly is the buck/phrobis as good as quality of the phrobis? I know it sYs the 188 was made for commercial use. Thanks for all your help

[Oldsmithy]

there are long gripped M9's and M7's purpose made for long barraled M16's but not military. the bayonet lug is as it is a standard fitting not for use, the last thing you would want as a soldier is a long barrel on an assault weapon, kinda defeats the purpose. Most of the long barrel weapons are to give heavier barrels to allow the weapon to be used more as a light machine gun and support (for sustained auto fire). If your support weapons need bayonets you are int he s**t and the fact that the thing slops around a bit is really material.

At least thats my understanding

Of course if its a civialian weapon the bayonet stud is there to make it look good for those who want to pose!

[lawman0210]

I figured being that my m4 having a 16" barrel the bayonet would stick further out and that the bayonet ring would be on the compensator. On a standard m16a2 what is the length from the end of the muzzle the the bayonet lug? What is the diameter of the barrel at that point where the bayonet contacts?

[Mister Moon]

Posted: 12/25/2010 4:00:02 AM CET AR15.COM
Originally Posted By 68_Mustang:

You will need an adapter for a carbine.

Bayonets work on 20" rifle, 16" mid, and 14.5" carbine. adapter needed for 16" carbine. This is what I`ve read anyway.
Under : M7 Bayonet with adapt. ...



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[lawman0210]

I guess I have a lot to learn about the AR platform. Even with an adapter due to the length of the end of the barrel to the bayonet lug I will only have 4 inches of blade exposed past the muzzle. Can anyone tell me what the purpose of the 1" of necked down area on the carbine barrel?

[Mister Moon]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Bayonet-Barrel-Adapter-M7-M9-M10-and-M11-Bayonets-/190458429646?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c583500ce#ht_531wt_901

[lawman0210]

Yes I have been looking at this adapter ring. I may buy this for a temporary fix but I am more looking for an adapter to put on the bayonet lug that will push the bayonet forward 1 -2". As stated by attaching the bayonet to the barrel I only have 4" of the bayonet exposed from the tip of the muzzle. I may end up switching my uppers again to a configuration that is set up for it. The carbine length isn't as important to me. My use of this weapon would be for a survival situation if this country ever goes belly up. So a longer barrel may even have an advantage although a carbine length is more then adequate in engaging targets at a practical range 1-200 yards. i am going to look into a local machine shop who may be able to make a bushing to fit on my barrel and take the slack up. I would look to have set screws and the bushing to be in two pieces so that you would not have to remove your compensator.

[lawman0210]

It looks as though the auction was pulled from ebay or it has ended. Anyone have contact info to the person selling the slip over adapter? I believe you take your flash suppresor off screw the adapter on and then reinstall your supressor. Also looking for an bayonet lug adapter to install on my Remington 870 Shotgun

[lawman0210]

Earlier in this post I was given a link on an ebay item that was for a M9 adapter that would screw on behind the flash suppressor/Compensator that would add thickness to the barrel so that the M9 would not jiggle on an M4 barrel. The seller showed you would unscrew the compensator, screw on the bushing type adapter and then screw the compensator. I was also told it would not add any length to the barrel. I tried the link and the item is no longer available and unviewable. Can someone please give me the sellers info? Also I am looking for the adapter that will allow you to mount your m9 on an Remington 870 shotgun. Why you ask? I don't know but I want one. You can email me directly if possible to lawman0210@gmail.com.
Thanks

[pwcosol]

LM:

Here is a link which might help:
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1245778

Shotgun info here:
http://www.shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?t=142328

BTW, did you ever see the link regarding your post about using a M9 as a survival weapon?
http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/showthread.php?t=6628