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Murmur
12-01-2005, 01:18 PM
Took my 300-221 out for it's first hunting trip yesterday and came back feeling like the grim reaper. 8 feral goats later and the rest of the mob only the wiser because of a wind direction change.
I learn't quite a few things. After a string of misses found that a gorilla grip & follow through important if you want to hit your target. I guess because the bullet is subsonic barrel time is considerable.
Once I sorted that I discovered that shoulder shots are a waste of time. Kinda like a flying drill bit. A goat hit through the lungs at 100 yards just kept on walking and required a second shot to the neck to put it down.
From then on only elected to take head or neck shots with ranges from 25 yards to my longest of 150 yards. Each shot was a one shot kill to these areas. Hardly an entrance wound but with a very bloody exit. Judging by the exit wound (knife like) size the bullets must have tumbled when meeting solid thick bone. I kick myself for not having taken a camera to document it for you.
My thoughts.....wow this is one amazing piece of kit. By hiding in a patch of thistles none of the game new any wiser with the report almost non existant because of the silencer. I'm going to put on a bipod to make accurate shooting at the longer ranges easier. I think a super steady, gorilla grip & range finder are the only humane way to hunt if your planning on using subsonic ammo. I would love to hear from any one with their hunting experiences.
Next time out goes the camera.
John3
12-01-2005, 06:45 PM
I'm getting set-up to hand load sub-sonic rounds, trying to decide on a bullet. Most likely will be the 220gr SMK, but the 240gr. is tempting. What powder/load do you use, and what accuracy do you get?
Murmur
12-02-2005, 12:31 AM
My gunsmith supplied me some ammo until all my reloading gear turns up so not sure on the load. He's going to be supplying the the developed load data though. 100y groups were as small as 3/4" for five shot groups from my Contender carbine. I'll get my hands on the data and post it here when I can. We went straight to the 240gr Mk as I wanted as much energy as possible as the rifle was built with subsonic hunting in mind.
I still find it quite unconceivable just how quiet the rifle really is. Not much noiser than my CZ 22LR with subsonics & suppressor. The scariest thing was riccohets though. One bullet bounced of a rock and dissapeared somewhere. Makes you go diving for cover in case it heads back your way!
I think an AR with suppressor & subsonics would be way cool....but until I can afford one of those the single shot seems to do just fine. After all it makes your real sure about your aim cause you only might get one chance.
KillJoy149
12-02-2005, 01:18 PM
Murmur, what part of the world are you in? I ask because around here, you cannot hunt, even varmints, w/ a suppressor.
KillJoy
Murmur
12-02-2005, 02:04 PM
Way over in little old New Zealand. Suppressors are perfectly legal and widely used. Fantastic for pest control & for keeping our hearing intact. We can still go hunting for free on public land where still plently of game reside in the beautiful outdoors. How much longer that will last is anybodys guess. I hope one day little johnny will be able to experience the same thing.
ranger dave
12-04-2005, 08:47 PM
i have a great load for the 30/ 221 ( to keep mr jones happy) 147g fmj with 8g of 2400 comes out at 900fps of my 14 inch ar i love to shoot and its a good round with out breaking the bank :uzi2:
ranger dave
12-04-2005, 08:50 PM
hay murmur would u like to adopt a 40 year old ret army ranger :uzi2:
d-mon
12-05-2005, 07:00 PM
Hello murmur,
I plan on migrating to your country next year.(I hope you do not mind, I make very good french bread)
What are the gun laws like over there? Any system of licensing like here in the Uk, or is there a bit more freedom like in US, france or switzerland?
ND
Murmur
12-05-2005, 11:21 PM
Firearm laws are very relaxed....with some unusual twists....
No hunting with handguns....range use only. You have to be sponsored by a pistol club & then attend several events a year to maintain licence.
Military style weapons (AR's, AK's, anything with 15 shot mag, folding stock or flash hider) require a special licence. The trick here is none of these can be imported into the country. Only existing rifles in NZ are available. An AR here costs nothing short of 10,000 NZ dollars!!!! because of this. Another reason why I don't have a semi 300 whisper.
But beyond that rules are relaxed....yes people even own 50BMG's & 510 whispers and all sorts of other fun goodies.
The best part is still the large range of hunting availble on public land for free. Some verygood animals are taken if the hours are put in.
I think Your'l like the relaxed life style.
d-mon
12-06-2005, 07:26 PM
Once I am set up overthere, I would sure be pleased to meet you.
I will bring my whisper :)
ND
Murmur
12-06-2005, 09:49 PM
Sounds good D-mon. Make a point of catching up. I'm quite partial to french bread :) Maybe you could come try your whisper on some of these feral goats out my way.
m21black
01-10-2007, 12:06 PM
I have shot several deer in the NE with my Wisper, all one shoot kills. Similar wound results, small entry wound with knife like exit wound.
Favorite load 9.3 grains of H 110 over a 240 grain SMK, clocks at an average of 1040 FPS. Shoots 3/4" groups with my SSK barreled contender and 3/8" groups with my brother's CZ with a Mike Rock barrel.
d-mon
01-10-2007, 10:30 PM
Hello murmur,
I am in New Zealand now, in the North Island near Hamilton.
Where are you based?
Send me an mp when you read this please.
ND
spmorgan
01-11-2007, 03:54 PM
Hi Murmur,
I found the same on goats in Australia, I actually shot a goat facing me in the chest and the round came out just beside his arse, so I too switched to neck and head shots and it is devasting. I use 220 Hornady interlocks with 11gn AD2205 for subsonic and 125 Balistic tips with 17.6gn for supersonic, equally devasting. Shane
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