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BigBlue
09-23-2005, 10:56 PM
I was thinking that before I do any type of finish on a new build, I would want to make any changes I could to help with the accuracy. I have no illusions of MOA accuracy, but I was thinking that something as simple as recrowning the barrel would be a big step forward. There are companies that will rent out the rechamfering tools for a very reasonable price. Does anyone have any other accurizing tips?
Don

555th
09-23-2005, 11:35 PM
I think AKs are what they are. I've never seen anyone improve the accuracy, besides using some sort of optics.

Generally the 74s are more accurate, but still not near MOA.

I think you give up some accuracy for oustanding reliability with all AKs.

BigBlue
09-23-2005, 11:54 PM
I wouldn't want to trade off reliability for accuracy.
Don

Quarterbore
09-24-2005, 12:05 AM
If you want an accurate rifle you would be best off with an AR-15. A good milled AK will shoot pretty good but I don't think it is worth trying to make an AKM or AK shoot all that well. It's like the people that will spend big bucks to get a mini-14 shoot almost as well as an AR-15 shoots out of the box...

KillJoy149
09-24-2005, 11:20 AM
I have always heard that "good" accuracy from an AK, or an SKS for that matter, is about a 3" group at 100 yards.

That is well within the battle requirements these rifles were designed for.

KillJoy

Wrangler
12-13-2005, 09:10 AM
Thebest AK shooter I ever saw was a friend who showed me his AK snd put on fantastic shooting demo with it, but then he could shoot anything well. I think a lot of it is the man behind the gun don't you?

KillJoy149
12-13-2005, 01:06 PM
Yes, to a point.

A good gun cannot make a poor shooter shoot good.

But, a good shooter can shoot poorly w/ an inaccurate one.

KillJoy

seebee69
12-13-2005, 08:28 PM
Far be it from me to interject my comments but...The weapon was designed to do just what it does...I have built and modified several types of weapons and the fact does remain you need to start with something worthy of your efforts...I have a great respect for the AK-47, but there is a time and a place for types of rifles...Spray and paint is that weapons claim to fame...

McGowan
12-14-2005, 05:23 AM
I think AKs are what they are. I've never seen anyone improve the accuracy, besides using some sort of optics.

Generally the 74s are more accurate, but still not near MOA.

I think you give up some accuracy for oustanding reliability with all AKs.


i would have to second that. . .from my experience training with them, they can handle alot but you wont get those 10mm groupings you can with a C7 (m4) at 100yard with 5 rounds

Wrangler
12-14-2005, 09:10 PM
I agree that you can not shooot too well with a poor gun but I saw a demonstration of shooting that had him hitting things I could not hardly see. It was with an AK and was after I made a foool out of myself telling him how inaccurate AK were supposed to be. I am not sure why his was better but the shots he made would be great with any weapon. I was very impressed and had nothing to say afterwards but , Gee! What great shooting. I don't have all the answers but I sure know what I saw that day. I wish I owned his AK and could shoot it like he did.

Kiwi
12-18-2005, 02:43 PM
Hi Guys,
Here's my two cents worth, I decided to try and improve the accuracy of my Norinco SKS M model.
the first thing that had to be done was to reduce the trigger pull from over 8 pounds. The Gunsmith I used who is familiar with these rifles was able to reduce this to about 3.7 pounds, next was to have the action firmly glass bedded into the stock and a choate scope mount fixed to the receiver.
I had previously used a Bsquare scope mount and this was not a very good solution, it just had two much movement in it.
On the subject of scopes I am now on my third, the SKS killed the Simmons and redfield tracker that I had been using previously. My theory is that what makes the Sks and similar rifles kill the cheaper quality scopes is that you get almost a two stage recoil, you get the initial blast from the rifle and a split second later you get the bolt slamming into the rear of the receiver.
Becuse this is my No 1 goat rifle I also wanted a screw on muzzle brake installed, not so much for recoil reduction but more to reduce muzzle jump.
Group size with handloads has shrunk from just over 3 inhes for five shots @ 100 yards to 1.57 inches so accuracy on these rifles can be improved but like others have said you are never going to get sub MOA. The accuracy I am getting now is somewhat better than I expected and a lot better than my shooting buddies brand new Mini 14.
My own personal opinion is that the trigger job should be the first thing that should be considered and only done by a competent Gunsmith.
Other modification I have made is to fit the Htype recoil buffers and also to fit Ben Murray's spring loaded firing pin to reduce the risk of slam fires. None of these change have affected the relibility of the weapon.
Murray

edsmith
01-13-2006, 01:15 AM
i will have you know that i put 30 rounds in one hole,at 100 yards i shot 30 rounds rapid fire,and only had one hole in the target,so all 30 went into the same hole. :D

Wrangler
01-13-2006, 01:32 AM
Sounds like the first hole was self inflicted between the eyes. I do remember having put more than one shot down range that did go into the same hole and I had a hell of a time getting the scorer to admit it. Finally, I won.