Australian Issue Buck M9 Bayonet

[Quarterbore]

Here is another unusual Buck m9 Bayonet. This is an Australian Issue M9 Bayonet...

Here is a link to the auction (http://www.qksrv.net/click-1113488-5463217?loc=http%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D2283797947)

Here is the description:

Quote:Genuine RARE Buck M9 Bayonet With Scabbard Australian Issue - Mint

This is a genuine Australian Army contract Buck M9 bayonet for use with the Australian made AusSteyr F88 5.56mm rifle and M16 rifle. Ricasso stamped with "Buck 188 USA. /|\ " and "Buck /|\" on original scabbard. All in unissued condition.

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/buck-m9/m9_buck_ausy1a.jpg

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/buck-m9/m9_buck_ausy1b.jpg

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/buck-m9/m9_buck_ausy1c.jpg

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/buck-m9/m9_buck_ausy1d.jpg

[Quarterbore]

Original Post by Porterkids:

The Australians also have a M9 with the same markings but a black oxide blade.

EDIT BY QUARTERBORE:

Bill Porter of the forums was generous enough to provide two photos of his M9. You can see that this is a Black Oxide finish with the markings as he had described above:

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/buck-m9/m9_austrailian_02-a.jpg

http://www.m9bayonet.com/images/buck-m9/m9_australian_02-b.jpg

[Carlo]

1feral1


Joined: 06 Jan 2005
Posts: 5
Location: South East Queensland, Australia
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:38 pm Post subject:

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After being involved in the rebuild of the Aussie M9s over the years, all black blades are US marked. No 'crows foot' at all. The spare parts are all off the shelf buys from US sources.

So now you can have entire Lan Kay knives w/scabs, or entire Bucks with scabs, or Bucks with new LAN KAY blades and scabbards, LAN KAYs with buck scabbards, and a total mis-match, wishy-washy combination for rebuilds. There is no replacement 'acc' pouches for the Buck scabs. One still encountered the original Bucks in the system, in various stages of condition.

Some units have also engraved local 'serial numbers' too, on the blade

However on the M7 bayonets in service here in Australia, they are as fol:

- US marked (Conetta, Gen Cut, etc) in M8A1 scabbards
- US marked (as above) in black US M10 scabbards
- US manufactured but Aussie marked (Crows Foot) on quillon (no other makers marks) in OD M10 scabbard with Crows Foot' mark
- or any combination of the above

When one goes to the local gun shows, sometimes there is the odd KCB-77 (Some Aussie marked, but Solingen manufactured, other no markings), and these go for under $100AUD.

There can also be a host of M7's, some US and some Aussie marked, again for under $100AUD. Even the odd Canadian Nella C7 bayonets. Plus on the odd occasion M9s, mainly of US origin under $175AUD, but the odd Aussie contract one for under $250AUD. All used of course.

Sadly now there is a selection of inferior Chi-Com copies, of which I have had a close view, and the ones I seen are simply crap.

Hope this info is useful.

Cheers,

1feral1

[1feral1]

I am suprised about the black Aussie contract blade! So, I guess I stand corrected. Of the thousands of M9s I have seen, I have NEVER seen one of these, which leads to a possible hybrid prototype or something. Who knows?

The recent M9 Aussie bayonets which have black blades are the latest Lan-Cay types with the latest scabbards, all in OD plastic, adn 100% off the shelf products. No Aussie markings at all.


Cheers,
1feral1

[Carlo]

I have found this (very) old post in the www.bladeforums.com website.
old post (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=127023)
....seems that (at least in 2000) nobody was sure about the blade color (bright or black) of the M9 Aussie contract.

[rexmeyer]

Since this is a old post here is a picture of my Australian m-9 that I acquired. It is a bright blade also.

[Carlo]

These are the original pictures the australian seller sent me (I still don't have a digital camera, so I can't provide pictures from myself).
After a bit of cleaning my bayonet looks much better now!!!!!

[1feral1]

Currently I am 'negotiating' on a unique Aussie M9. Just how much I am either going to trade or deal out the dosh is still in question. I hope to have it here within a couple of weeks. It will be coming from the Perth region.

It has the standard Buck blade with Aussie contract proof mark, but the MOLLE scabbard, latest crosspiece, and 'ergo grip'. I am assuming its a parts bayonet made up of the latest stuff (might be the way of a change coming - or who knows), and either way, it will go well into my collection of US M9's. I do know its all new, which is good, but I prefer used ones with that been there feeling.

So before I 'commit' (I am there pretty much now), does anyone have a clue or ball park figure what this is worth in USD?

So far, I have thrown in a current new and unissued AUSCAM para smock, Canadian Para smock (my old one), and British para smock (2 Para, used), plus some badges, etc.

Hoping for some good feedback here, and should the deal go thru, I'll be posting somes pics for all to see.

Cheers,

1feral1

[1feral1]

One last thing. I have a used Buck OD Aussie marked M9 scabbard I am seeking to trade for a OD US Buck scabbard, also used.

I can't seem to find a board for such, and if I have done something wrong, mods, please delete or move to the right spot.

I'll get a few pics of the scabbard, and if anyone can help me out, please either email me, or respond to this.


Cheers,

1feral1

[porterkids]

My personal feeling is that the M9 you're describing is worth less than an original "as issued" Australian M9. I've seen the Australian M9s sell for anywhere between $225-450 USD depending on condition. I think the top end one was a bit high, but that was an ebay auction and we all know that anything is possible there.

"Unnaturalone" sells a full complement of current M9 parts on ebay. It would not be difficult, or expensive, to make the modifications you've described.

Hope this helps. Contact me off forum about the scabbard.

Bill
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[1feral1]

Thanks Mate.

Cheers,

Wes

[1feral1]

After some thought, I have backed out of the 'deal' as I checked the parts prices on ebay. Worst case scenerio, I'll order myself, and make my own 'hybrid' rather than pay out the arse for one.

However, I do have that M9 Aussie Buck scabbard to trade 'one for one' for a US Buck used one as specified in my above post.

Cheers,

1feral1

[1feral1]

Here is that Aussie marked M9 scabbard.

Cheers,

1feral1

[porterkids]

What type of scabbard are you looking for? Buck commercial, Buck military or Phrobis military?
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[1feral1]

Hi Bill,

Here is some pics of the bayonet, as for the scabbard I require, Phrobis military to match the bayonet would be great, but Buck military would also suffice.

The bayonet has the dolphin on the crosspiece, and the blade is also marked Phrobis III.

Cheers,

Wes

[1feral1]

Here is some pics of the M9 bayonet in use here in Australia. Taken at Singleton, north west of Sydney in Sep 03.

Well, I have beared by ugly mug for all ya's to see. Hope I did not break your moniter screens :)

Note the red BFA on the F88SA1 rifle, which can accept a bayonet over it, so the bayonet can be fixed while training with blanks.

Also note the 20rd magazine too. This is not Aussie issue, as I got this mag through trading with one of the members of the Malaysian Army. The mag is good for confined spaces in vehicles, etc, so it does come in handy.

The webbing is an Aussie copy (in AUSCAM) of the South African M-83, modified for Aussie equipment. The harness is South African. Although not issue, this model is quite popular with the troops, and puts the generic issue Viet Nam era crap to shame. The M83 holds 10 30rd mags (also good for the m16 30's also (as we use the M4 too), has a frag pouch, some map pockets, and is user friendly.

Gone is the traditional water bottle, as the Camelbak 3L hydration system fits fine in the designed pouch.

Cheers,

Wes

[Carlo]

Very nice pictures, THANK YOU!
Do you have a picture of an M9 mounted on that rifle?

[1feral1]

I am on holidays 'til next week, so I can get a picture then.

Cheers,

Wes

[1feral1]

I am still keen to trade the Aussie contract Buck scabbard pictured above for a Phrobis scabbard in good nick to match my Phrobis bayonet.

Its gonna be a 1 for 1, and thats a good deal for you!

Cheers,

Wes

[1feral1]

FLASH!

As of today, there are two separate Aussie /I\ Buck M9's on Ebay. Both are here in Australia, and they will ship world wide.

Good luck should any of you choose to bid.


Cheers,

Wes

[1feral1]

As promised earlier in this thread, I'll be posting a pic or two of the Aussie M9 on the end of an ADI Austeyr F88SA1 rifle later today. I finally brought my camera in.

Cheers,

Wes

[1feral1]

Here is a cuople images of the F88SA1 with Aussie M9 attached. The green tag on the rifle, just means its serviceable as I just finished inspecting the lot.

Cheers,

Wes

[Carlo]

I am still keen to trade the Aussie contract Buck scabbard pictured above for a Phrobis scabbard in good nick to match my Phrobis bayonet.

Its gonna be a 1 for 1, and thats a good deal for you!

Cheers,

Wes
Is the scabbard still available for sale or trade?

[1feral1]

Sure is mate! looking to 1 for 1 for a Phrobis marked OD green scabbard in VG used condition. All complete with stone and screw driver/wirecutter, etc. Email me on feral99@hotmail.com

Thanks,

Wes

[1feral1]

My PC has had the biscut, so I am not on as much as I would like, but last week ebay had an auction for an Aussie marked M9, and it went for almost $1000AUD, or almost $700US. Can you beleive that! Of course it was an Aussie based bidder who won. That price has got to be the most expensive Aussie M9 ever sold, at least as far as I know.

PS- the way the seller had it worded is what sold the knife!

Cheers,

Wes

[porterkids]

What was the auction number?
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[Quarterbore]

I think I found it... (Item 6615977133) (http://www.qksrv.net/click-1642095-10381315?loc=http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D6615977133&SID=M9 Bayonet)


AU $917.00 (Approximately US $666.02)


GENUINE Buck M9 Bayonet

1 of Approx. 20,000 issued for the Australian Army. Made in the early 90s. All original parts as supplied by Buck. Made in the USA.Complete with sheath and stone. Knife has the wire cutter at the end of the sheath. Whole knife measures 12 inches with the blade measuring 7 inches. Strapping on sheath has never been unrolled and knife has never been use. A must for any collector. Any queries welcome..

VERY RARE KNIFE


One image:

http://i17.ebayimg.com/01/i/06/9b/ca/db_1_b.JPG

WOW!

[Carlo]

Take a look at this ebay auction
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quality-reproduction-Australian-Buck-M9-Bayonet-not-issue-/200680790665?pt=AU_Militaria&hash=item2eb981da89
Do not consider the scabbard and try to focus on the blade markings.
In the following picture on the left is a genuine australian contract M9, on the right the bayonet from the above auction

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6165/fakeaus.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/265/fakeaus.jpg/)

I'm shocked as I am not able to see any difference (apart from a small alignment problem) in the blade markings between the two.

[porterkids]

It could be an original blade with Chinese parts.

[Jay Talbot]

Hi,Could anyone please tell me if ALL the Aussie m9s have a date code on the buckle as I have one that hasnt.It has the same buckle markings as my US Gen two.The scabbard is correct for an Aussie m9 though.(BUCK with Broadarrow)

At first I thought it had a substituded webbing piece,but it looks the same as the others on my other Aussie m9s.It does not look to have been restitched either.(Ive noticed that the American webbing has a longer loop section near the snap that covers the stone,at least on mine anyway).

Does anyone else have one with no date code on the buckle?Or is it a case of someone putting on the wrong buckle when made?Any and all help much appreciated,thankyou.

Jay

[porterkids]

I can't say with absolute certainty that no Phrobis/Buck scabbards had date codes, but I can't recall ever seeing any. The clips used by LanCay (and Lan-Cay) have a date code.

[Jay Talbot]

Sir,Thankyou for your help in this matter,much appreciated.I will keep a lookout for another,and ask other collectors,but for now it will remain a scarce bayonet with an odd buckle.

Regards Jay

[Jay Talbot]

http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac272/merlinthegreat01/P1020810_zps6wowrkau.jpg (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/merlinthegreat01/media/P1020810_zps6wowrkau.jpg.html)I found another Aussie Buck m9 without the date code on the buckle,that makes two in my humble collection like this.Any one else have one like this?http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac272/merlinthegreat01/P1020807_zpsegt5b3cb.jpg (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/merlinthegreat01/media/P1020807_zpsegt5b3cb.jpg.html)

[porterkids]

I may be mistaken, but I believe that most, if not all, the Australian M9 bayonets have a Fastex clip without a date. Have you seen any WITH a date? If so, what was the date? I suspect that any of them that are dated have replacement parts installed on an original scabbard body.

[Jay Talbot]

Sir,I have 18 Aussie m9s in my collection.Three mint,all others used to some degree.

All except two have date coded buckles showing 1991 as the year of manufacture as per contract.The month of manufacture varies between January and December of that year,with most being made in March,at least in the ones I have anyway.

None looked to have been altered in any way from the mint examples with regards to the webbing with the exception of one that has had a Lan-Cay belt attachment piece used to replace a missing or lost Buck/Phrobis piece.

http://i907.photobucket.com/albums/ac272/merlinthegreat01/P1020422_zpsnnkqnuwi.jpg (http://s907.photobucket.com/user/merlinthegreat01/media/P1020422_zpsnnkqnuwi.jpg.html)I have either a lot of common pieces(dated 1991)or uncommon pieces depending on which is correct.I feel the dated pieces are correct based simply on the fact there are more of them,although I may be wrong.Wisdom is knowledge shared.Thankyou