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tp555
07-07-2010, 03:05 PM
Customer had a problem.Total lock up.Worst I have ever seen.Bolt,carrier and upper were not coming apart.Load was 12g of 296 w/ 240 gn bullet.He chrono'd
it at 1200.The only shot.Barrel was 10 1/2" SS one of mine.Extractor was bent.I did get it apart by cutting the barrel extension.

Hoser
07-07-2010, 03:22 PM
With the blown case, extractor dimple and blanked primer I would also guess excessive pressure.

How does the inside of the barrel look? Maybe ringed from a stuck bullet in the previous shot, or when you say only shot was that the first round he fired?

Colohunter
07-07-2010, 05:12 PM
Looks like pressure to me as well, looks like Sierra's manual shows a maximum charge of 296 as 11.3 grains for 1200 fps, Sierra shows that data was from a 10" T/C barrel.

LouBoyd
07-07-2010, 06:10 PM
What was the cartridge OAL? Seating depth makes a huge difference to pressure in a tiny cartridge like the 300 Whisper. The bullet can be seated much further out in a T/C. The default Quickload seating depth for the 300-221 of 2.3" is too long to fit in an AR-15 magazine.

I just ran a Quickload simulation on a 300-221 with a 10.5" barrel with 12 grains of Winchester 296 with a Sierra 240 grain Matchking seated to a cartridge OAL of 2.28" using defaults for other information not given in this thread. It predicts a pressure 59140 psi and muzzle velocity of 1373 fps. That's just a bit warm for an AR-15.

With that seating depth, bullet and powder I wouldn't have exceeded 9.0 grains, which Quickload says would give 1016 fps and under 28000 psi.

tp555
07-07-2010, 07:51 PM
Don't know the load details.The brass flow into the ejector is high pressure.I got the bolt and other parts separated today.The chunk is at the extractor section which was bent on the bolt.I'll try to save the barrel.See what happens.

BWE Firearms
07-07-2010, 09:32 PM
That is defiantly excessive pressure. Check the barrel out very carefully before trying to save it. I would also suggest Magnufluxing it. Make sure the receiver and bolt carrier didn't sustain any damage as well.

SgtCottle
07-09-2010, 12:59 PM
For that heavy of a slug that is quite a heavy charge. Considering Winchester 296 is right around the same burn rate as H110 - I would think that 12g would be pushing the envelope. By the looks of the barrel ... that would be correct. With bullets under 200g I don't mind using the common Whisper powders in excess of 10g, but once your slugs are 200g+ you best stay under 10g of powder until you know what your playing with. I had a cartridge start to come apart on me with a load that I was working up using No. 7 ... looks very similar to the backend of that one in the barrel. This was early in my load developement days and was my wake up call .... I am lucky I got away with as little collateral damage as it caused. With such a heavy bullet and swimming in uncharted waters - you best keep it conservative or you'll end up missing body parts.

Sarg