Anyone use Lil' Gun for Subs?

[no4mk1t]

A search for data on this subject has turned up sparse information. Has anyone used Lil' Gun for sub-sonic loading?

[Glocksecure]

I am trying to finalize a load with 220 SMK. I am at 8.5gr right now and know they are subsonic. The groups aren't great. 8.7gr give much better groups but might be close to transonic. I am using a 16 in barrel from TP555 in an AR upper. Both loads cycle well and lock the bolt back. I have chrony on the way and will do more testing when I get it.

[Fritzcat]

I am using 9.5gr Lil Gun with Horn 220gr RN and 9.2gr Lil Gun with Speer 200gr SP.

[no4mk1t]

Sounds good. I'm looking for something that will shoot better than 1680 and still cycle an AR. When the weather improves, I'll give it a try.

Fritzcat, what barrel length and type weapon you using?

Glocksecure, where in SC are you? I'm near Clemson.

[Glocksecure]

Columbia. My form 4 should be back soon (I hope). I am kinda waiting for it before I blow through a lot more ammo. I know the loads are stable and I won't get a baffle strike. This is my first attempt at reloading.

[no4mk1t]

Columbia. My form 4 should be back soon (I hope). I am kinda waiting for it before I blow through a lot more ammo. I know the loads are stable and I won't get a baffle strike. This is my first attempt at reloading.

What can are you getting. Mine is a SWR Omega 30.

[Glocksecure]

Look up innovativearms.com. It's the solutions can. I have one of his 22 cans, very light and quiet.

[Fritzcat]

It's an AR with Ron Williams 10 1/2" Poygonal 1x8 and Paladin 3 way gas block in pistol position and YHM 9mm Wraith XL. The loads I like best so far is Horn 220gr-9.5gr-Lil Gun, Speer 200gr-9.2gr-Lil Gun, 175 FMJBT-6.5gr-Blue Dot, Nosler 168gr Match-6.5gr-Blue Dot, 150gr FMJFB-6.5gr-Blue Dot. All of these cycle and no sighns of pressure and quiet out of the 9mm Wraith.

[Texdoug1]

loaded up with some LILGUN today. No luck though. Used 8.0 gr with 208 Amax and got about 1080fps, but wouldn't pick up another round after ejecting. Same thing with 220 Hornady RN, which didn't feed at all even manually. I'm using a tp555 barrel with gas block wide open, and a reduced power buffer spring. Standard spring worked even worse. I guess I'll have to try something faster. Does anyone think this could have anything to do with new rifle break in? It only has about 40rds through it.

[alorton]

It's an AR with Ron Williams 10 1/2" Poygonal 1x8 and Paladin 3 way gas block in pistol position and YHM 9mm Wraith XL. The loads I like best so far is Horn 220gr-9.5gr-Lil Gun, Speer 200gr-9.2gr-Lil Gun, 175 FMJBT-6.5gr-Blue Dot, Nosler 168gr Match-6.5gr-Blue Dot, 150gr FMJFB-6.5gr-Blue Dot. All of these cycle and no sighns of pressure and quiet out of the 9mm Wraith.

Did the Lil Gun not work with the lighter bullets?

[Fritzcat]

I am sure Lil-Gun will work with the lighter bullets because of longer burn rate. I was testing the fastest burn powders possible and function for quiet and clean. I have had good luck with Win 296 in my 762x39 before I bought any Lil-Gun.

[Fritzcat]

Texdoug1, faster burning powders will shorten dwell time. Lil-Gun should work. There is also other tricks besides powder. Give me a call.

[Scalce]

It's an AR with Ron Williams 10 1/2" Poygonal 1x8 and Paladin 3 way gas block in pistol position and YHM 9mm Wraith XL. The loads I like best so far is Horn 220gr-9.5gr-Lil Gun, Speer 200gr-9.2gr-Lil Gun, 175 FMJBT-6.5gr-Blue Dot, Nosler 168gr Match-6.5gr-Blue Dot, 150gr FMJFB-6.5gr-Blue Dot. All of these cycle and no sighns of pressure and quiet out of the 9mm Wraith.

Alittle off topic but what forearm tube or rail do you have on your AR?

[Fritzcat]

It is just a round tube with a lock nut and 1.750 ID. The 3-way gas block has the lever instead of screw slot. I milled a top quarter portion of tube to expose right side of gas block for easily rotating the lever then drilled and mounted a rail on right side for surefire light for night hog hunting. The rifle is very light to carry in the woods. With scope and suppresor it weighs just over 7lbs.