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falfan
11-30-2009, 07:06 PM
I am considiering a 300 whisper but would like to ask a few questions first. Is it difficult to find a subsonic load that is consistant and accurate?
Would you recommend a gun built on an AR or a bolt platform? why?

I was thinking of using 220 mk's, would I need an 8 twist or something different?

How accurate can these be, moa or 1/2 moa?

Thanks Shane

Alleycat
11-30-2009, 07:37 PM
There is tons of data for the 300 Whisper.
Do you prefer an AR or bolt? Pick what you like best. A bolt gun will be easier to work with though.
My AR shoots consistently into 3/4 MOA. A friend's bolt gun shoots into 1/2 MOA.

dksd39
11-30-2009, 11:20 PM
sub moa is very easy and your choice of bolt or AR will be a personal preference. I shoot a bolt whisper and love it. As for your bullet choice- I shoot 220 SMK's exclusively and an 8 twist is perfect.

falfan
12-01-2009, 08:21 AM
thanks for the replys. I prefer AR's but was concerned that reliability could be an issue with subsonic ammo. Perhaps I have misunderstood some of the gas related problems that I have read about here.
I still have to see if I can get a suppressor here before I commit to a rifle. I have heard that our LEO may not sign off on it, hopefully that's just a rumor though.

Alleycat
12-01-2009, 06:11 PM
Trust! no sign off

TexAgBQ81
12-01-2009, 06:34 PM
agree a trust is the only way to go---no LEO---no prints---no pictures---no questions when you die, because the trust lives on with it's successors/other trustees.
one trust, but many toys

falfan
12-01-2009, 08:55 PM
so how does a trust work and how will it make it easier to get a can?

Alleycat
12-01-2009, 09:19 PM
The trust owns the suppressor, SBR, SBS, or machine guns. The trustees can use the items in the trust. So if you and say your wife are trustees you can both use the stuff. The form 4 will have the name of the trust on it instead of your name. Make the name short if you ever plan on a SBR. As the name must be engraved on SBS or SBR. The trust lets you legally sidestep half the process. You can do a LLC or Corporation as well, but the trust is the best route. I do an individual only because TN requires CLO to sign off if you pass the 2 min background check.

falfan
12-04-2009, 11:14 AM
Alleycat, is a trust for NFA's different than an ordinary trust? I am currently looking for a local attorny familiar with this but am not having much luck. You said in TN you are required to have CLEO signoff, where can I find out if Ohio is the same way?

kdiver58
12-04-2009, 01:27 PM
Sub-sonic ....Sub MOA is easy ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn8gl13XdZ0

Alleycat
12-04-2009, 05:35 PM
NO, in TN the CLEO is required to sign off regardless of what their opinion is on NFA. My CLEO is a hell of a good guy. He even came to my grandmother's funeral. (I did look good in my suit and 10mm Kimber.)The Trust is no different. People Like to get a trust just for their NFA goodies just to make things simple.

http://www.guntrustlawyer.com/

This may help get you some specific question answered. Or you could buy the latest edition of Quicken will maker and setup you own RLT. Do some research and figure out what is right for you. There are some pitfalls to doing you own, But most people do it this way. Quicken will not let you choose the name of the trust so you will have to export it to a Word document to change the name. (Jonathan Quincy Smith Revocable Living Trust) Takes up a lot of real estate on the side of a receiver.


http://www.silencertests.com/


There is a lot of info about RLT on Silencer talk. The lawyers will all say you need a lawyer to set it up, but their comments may be a bit self serving.