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kdiver58
08-13-2009, 12:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoo4EScs9AI

Is this cheating ....:grin::grin::grin:

dksd39
08-13-2009, 09:10 AM
interesting and it would be nice to have his equipment but the process is slow.

kdiver58
08-13-2009, 05:02 PM
It's faster than people doing it on a lathe or a drill press ... :uzi2:

Fastshooter03
08-13-2009, 10:40 PM
That is similar to what I do but I use a v-block and manually feed the axis.
If you could only hook up a casefeeder........


Nick

dksd39
08-14-2009, 06:05 AM
It's faster than people doing it on a lathe or a drill press ... :uzi2:

thats true but when I want to make brass I want to do a ton. I use a home made jig on my chop saw and can spit on brass as fast a I can move my hands. Which I would guess is about 5 pieces to every one he does. I sure would like to have his gear though.

Jeff_8
08-15-2009, 12:39 AM
Where do you get that shell holder?

Jeff

:sniper:

320pf
08-15-2009, 09:15 AM
It's faster than people doing it on a lathe or a drill press ... :uzi2:

Kdiver58,

Thanks for the message. However, I think that using the drill press is a bit faster. Since every thing is lined up, I do not have to wait for the mill table to move into place before cutting the piece. I just put the piece into the Foster trim jig and cut. Yes you do have to be careful and keep your finger clear of the cutter, but I have a foot switch and that is not a problem.

Since I took this photo, I now use the 223 pilot. It makes sure everything is aligned.

The quickest method to make 300 brass is still the Dillon Super 1050 set-up with a case feeder and a resizing trim die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFkmpHdGm0U

http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/photopost/data/535/thumbs/221-300Brass-1.jpg (http://www.quarterbore.net/forums/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=614)

kdiver58
08-15-2009, 05:03 PM
I saw that setup and it is the best.. Cuts, forms it's da bomb.

Foot switch is a great idea ..

I slowed the feed down for the video and have added a guard .. I did 100 and I'm at about 15 seconds per now. It does take me more time moving the cutter back behind a guard but I've got so much scar tissue on my hands I just don't want to risk adding any more for the sake of a dozen more shells trimmed.. I'm a weenie ! :grin:

Chop saw sounds good. How hot does the brass get ?

I've got a surface grinder I never thought about putting a cutoff wheel in it and using a toolmakers vice to hold the brass ..hhmm

It's a Forster shell holder. I've made a new collet for it becasue just as 320pf said alignment can be a problem. I use a carbide mill because it will last forever. Maybe I'll burn a hole in it and braze a pilot into it..

The more ideas the better

este
08-19-2009, 07:06 PM
Those scraps swinging around the mill are a bad idea to get near. I've seen plenty of torn up fingers from seemingly little innocent winds like that.

I like the ideas though,

kdiver58
08-24-2009, 06:58 AM
new guard knocks them off

Mike-Sid
08-25-2009, 11:06 PM
Awesome set ups!


Check out this one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1FIs0FDmFQ&feature=related

I think you guys were talking about it.

I need that shell holder for my drill press.

JonPalmer
09-02-2009, 07:52 PM
I set a Dillon 650 up like in the video and it seem to be a pain the brass clogs the die up so you have to spend 20 min cleaning out the die and vacuum port for every 80 to 100 you make. I ended up getting a CH Tool and die wisper trim die and setting the cutter up on a single stage press and I seem to cut more per hour now.

Jon

Casey
09-28-2009, 01:45 AM
I took a simple drill press vise and with the jaws tight drilled a hole in the middle just the right size to hold the case tight. Spinning a 1/2 end-mill at 2000 rpm eats them right up. Repeatability is within .003" and it cuts faster than the mill in the video. I do run them through my wilson trimmer after the final sizing to make sure everything is square. I don't make a lot of brass but I sized, cut, and trimmed 100 cases in a few hours, good enough for me.