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oneajk
08-06-2006, 11:32 PM
Is there a way to build a fully automatic ar pistol?

prebancolt
08-07-2006, 02:13 AM
Sicilian0.............that you?

Quarterbore
08-07-2006, 12:49 PM
Sure, but a rLightning Link or a rDIAS or a AR-15 RR. The pricse are roughly as follows these days:

LL - $7,500+
Registered Receiver - $9,000+
DIAS - $12,000

With each comes the BATFE and FBI paperowrk, fingerprints, local Chief of Police Signature, $200 tax payment, and about 6-9 months of waiting...

But sure, you can make a full auto M-16 pistol.

FWIW, I would not want to shoot it myself and I have both the LL and an AR-15 pistol... It would just not be fun at all IMHO.

oneajk
08-08-2006, 12:09 AM
could I use the auto sears found on gunbroker.com?
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=53895531
or could I build my own receiver using these parts and register it as a legal class III pistol receiver?

RemMax
12-29-2006, 07:00 AM
Not unless you are a Class 2 manufacture but then if you were that you would know this information!
With regards to the fines and jail time our best best is to go to a Class 2 Manufature or a Class 3 Dealer and talk to them, they are a little more forgiving towards ignorance than the BATFE is but still yet you do not want to ask them how to build a back yard MG like you are asking here or they will likely THROW you off their propperty, not to mention that they are no more likely to tell you how to "build a Back Yard Machine Gun" than I am! I will point out however that if you spend the money and buy any registered Part be it a LL< RR< or a DIAS you can use it with any barrel length you want since a Machine gun is not restricted to barrel length's like a rifle is. Agaain talk to a Licesened Dealer and they will be able to help you with al the info you need to stay legal.

oneajk
03-04-2007, 08:49 PM
Thank you. I did get a hold of a class 3 dealer, and he said about the same thing as you.

WhisperFan
03-06-2007, 03:03 AM
I've got a friend that has his Class 2 Manufacturer's License. We were speaking about a related topic and he said that a machinegun is a machinegun. A machinegun is not a pistol, nor is it a rifle. Therefore, if you have a legal (registered) M-16 with a 20 inch barrel, and you decided to put a little 7.5" kitty-kat barreled upper on it, you aren't making a short barreled rifle, you are changing the barrel length on a machinegun.

I have heard others say that if you change to a shorter or longer barrel than was listed your Form 4, you simply change it back to the original length after use when you store it.

So - if you can put a barrel of a different length on it temporarily, why can't you temporarily remove the stock?

NFA is a whole different world. :rolleyes: